Behind The Music: GN'R (post your comments here)

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

I thought the Guns N' Roses Behind The Music was not that bad. I liked the one part in it a lot. I think it went something like this "You never knew what you were going to get, the best show ever or a roit or sometimes both". I also love the part at the end about CD coming out in November. It would be great if it's true. 

[ccorn69]

I like it, it wasnt as harsh on axl asive seen somethings be but it still portrayed him in a bad light, its like he is always the bad guy

[slake]

Hi! A pretty obscure question but hoping someone can help. On the BTM show there is a piece of music played that I don't recognise but thought really cool. It is when they are talking about the end of the UYI tour and showing them coming home, walking out of the airport? etc. It sounds really laid-back, simple, slow guitar riff and I was wondering if anyone knew what it was. Thanks!

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

i'm seeing a lot of well-deserved annoyance toward matt sorum.. but he WAS right about two things:

1~ "he [axl] was like the greatest rock n roll frontman ever"
2~ "that kind of sh!t will never happen again"

 

[Jaded]

we are 30 minutes in and there has been only one mention of izzy stradlin. This portrayl is one sided and not very informative.

slash blames axl for the pianos, back up singers, and horns even though it was slash's idea.

really? it was slash?? omg i never expected that.. i thought slash was suppose to be the right laid-back cool one! ha!
i can't take the piss though cos i love november rain and the horns are good on live and let die

[Wheres Izzy]

Maybe it's not too "rock n roll" of me but I always loved the horns and piano.

[oneway23]

Ask the Stones how Rock and Roll Piano and Horns are...

[MsDuffMckagan]

I really enjoyed it. I've seen it about 5 times now lol.
Erin

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

one thing doesnt make sense to me about what slash said on the btm concerning izzy leaving.. maybe someone can shed some light on the matter..

Slash: "he [izzy] felt dictated to and left"

if izzy felt dictated to, why would he leave after he finished recording the album? and didnt izzy step in for gilby for 5 shows or something when he [gilby] got injured in a motorcycle accident? if he was "dictated" to then why would he go back? even if it is for 5 shows..

or did he just leave cuz he didnt wanna be a part of something so huge anymore and just wanted to jam?

 

[Dizzy]

Slash: "he [izzy] felt dictated to and left"

if izzy felt dictated to, why would he leave after he finished recording the album? and didnt izzy step in for gilby for 5 shows or something when he [gilby] got injured in a motorcycle accident? if he was "dictated" to then why would he go back? even if it is for 5 shows..

or did he just leave cuz he didnt wanna be a part of something so huge anymore and just wanted to jam?

Izzy's 1993 statement on quitting the band....

I knew that it was the beginning of the end as soon as Steven was legally voted out for doing drugs.  That from a band that spent years doing groupies and being idiots!  But I did 'Use Your Illusion' and the tour. I'd quit drinking and drugs and been through a year's probation.  I had my own bus because I had a girlfriend and dogs, and there's nothing worse than waiting on somebody - their jumbo jet would sit on the runway for three hours while Axl blow-dried his hair.

Everything had become magnified - egos, drug habits, indulgence.  It wasn't about music.  We did fucking multi-million drama videos, like what happened to five guys playing rock n roll?  Helicopters, supermodels, it was the lamest thing.  The final straw was Axl, who was like Adolf.  He had a contract drawn up for me so he could lower me down the totem pole.  It said my wages should be reduced because I didn't move about enough on-stage.  When I heard that I was like, "Fuck this guy."  We came from the same place, helped each other, now he thinks he's the king.  I told them to do the papers so I could leave [the band].  Axl rang and said, "Will you still write with us?" and asked me to come over his house.
 
I walk up and he comes out and starts screaming, "Get off my property!" I thought, "You fucking little hayseed redneck trailer trash son of a bitch."  What a dick.  I drove away feeling like a mountain had been taken off my back.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Slash: "he [izzy] felt dictated to and left"

if izzy felt dictated to, why would he leave after he finished recording the album? and didnt izzy step in for gilby for 5 shows or something when he [gilby] got injured in a motorcycle accident? if he was "dictated" to then why would he go back? even if it is for 5 shows..

or did he just leave cuz he didnt wanna be a part of something so huge anymore and just wanted to jam?

Izzy's 1993 statement on quitting the band....

I knew that it was the beginning of the end as soon as Steven was legally voted out for doing drugs.? That from a band that spent years doing groupies and being idiots!? But I did 'Use Your Illusion' and the tour. I'd quit drinking and drugs and been through a year's probation.? I had my own bus because I had a girlfriend and dogs, and there's nothing worse than waiting on somebody - their jumbo jet would sit on the runway for three hours while Axl blow-dried his hair.

Everything had become magnified - egos, drug habits, indulgence.? It wasn't about music.? We did fucking multi-million drama videos, like what happened to five guys playing rock n roll?? Helicopters, supermodels, it was the lamest thing.? The final straw was Axl, who was like Adolf.? He had a contract drawn up for me so he could lower me down the totem pole.? It said my wages should be reduced because I didn't move about enough on-stage.? When I heard that I was like, "Fuck this guy."? We came from the same place, helped each other, now he thinks he's the king.? I told them to do the papers so I could leave [the band].? Axl rang and said, "Will you still write with us?" and asked me to come over his house.
 
I walk up and he comes out and starts screaming, "Get off my property!" I thought, "You fucking little hayseed redneck trailer trash son of a bitch."? What a dick.? I drove away feeling like a mountain had been taken off my back.

wooo !...... axl rose, axl rose... axl .... rose .... what a douche ()......... but off course Izzy is *lying* ........ 

[Dizzy]

but off course Izzy is *lying* .

Of course.  Anybody who speaks negatively of Axl is lying.  Right fellas?

[Jaded]

I really enjoyed it. I've seen it about 5 times now lol.
Erin

wow you have the same name as axl's first wife- gotta be a blessing!

[Wheres Izzy]

Yeah Izzy has to have made all that up because he cares so much what people think about hi-...no wait he doesn't seem to give a flying fuck. But yeah he is totally lying because Axl has never done anything ridiculous like th-..no wait he has.

.....and I think Axl admits to the whole "not moving around enough" thing in the 92' rolling stone interview. I don't think he makes a reference to a contract but he says it was a big problem with him.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

"not moving around enough"

i'm surprised that Buckethead has been around that long ....

[Jonx]

Yeah Izzy has to have made all that up because he cares so much what people think about hi-...no wait he doesn't seem to give a flying fuck. But yeah he is totally lying because Axl has never done anything ridiculous like th-..no wait he has.

.....and I think Axl admits to the whole "not moving around enough" thing in the 92' rolling stone interview. I don't think he makes a reference to a contract but he says it was a big problem with him.

Didnt i read somewhere that Izzy has tried to reconcile his differences with Axl on numerous occasions. Didnt he try and visit Axl at his house a few times. I think he got as far as the gates but was then escorted off the premises by security. Axl didnt even give him a chance. Shame really!

I though Behind the Music was pretty good, so much was left out tho, so much. By far the funniest comment for me was Ratchmans comment about Axl becoming less than street. "The biggest change in Guns N Roses for me came when Axl decided that he wanted to jump over an aircraft carrier and swim with dolphins. Thats when i started thinking... ok maybe this isnt so street anymore!!!" Presumably Axl couldnt get hold of an aircraft carrier so he got the next best thing.... a big ass tanker. haha!

Jonx

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

"not moving around enough"

i'm surprised that Buckethead has been around that long ....

are you kidding? between the nunchucks flying around and all the breakdancing and all the fancy footwork during shredding solos.. he moves around a bunch.. 

[Dizzy]

Didnt i read somewhere that Izzy has tried to reconcile his differences with Axl on numerous occasions. Didnt he try and visit Axl at his house a few times. I think he got as far as the gates but was then escorted off the premises by security. Axl didnt even give him a chance. Shame really!

Izzy in a Jne 2001 interview with Hard Rock magazine.....

The only one who doesn't speak with anybody, is Axl.  He doesn't call people on the phone.  I like to drive my motorcycle and I know where he lives.  Once in 1995, I went to ring the doorbell at his place, and he opened the door.  We hugged, he made me visit his house and we talked.  It was cool, we reminiced several times after that.  But, one day, on the phone, I found the Axl of the 90's.  He took notes of what I said, and then, no more news.  Since then, I've gone to his house for a laugh: I ring the doorbell and there is always someone telling me that he is not there! I'm happy, in any case, that he had concerts in the beginning of the year in Las Vegas and Rio.  I'm happy that his microphone worked okay.  Who knows, he might have left the stage otherwise (laughs)!

[younggunner]

Anybody who speaks negatively of Axl is lying.  Right fellas?

Sometimes...not all the time...but sometimes

[The New Fiona Apple]

I didn't like it at all. It was too one sided (Partly Axl's fault though for not granting the request for an interview) and did not focus enough on the 1994-1998 years which was the collapse of the band. Plus, there was no mention of Paul Tobias who seemed to cause a huge rift with the band and seemed to be a huge factor in the old band's demise.