Fall to Pieces

[D]

i havent heard fall to pieces yet but i can guarantee two things

one the lyrics wont be better than "the blues" the blues are some of the finest lyrics mr rose has ever written

but on the other hand i can guarantee that mr slash's guitar solos and melodies piss all over the blues' guitar melodies and solo's

i have to wait and listen to fall to pieces first, but this is what im anticipating

[Naupis]

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The melody in this song truly is fantastic. I am not going to get into a New GNR vs. VR and what is better debate, but the song is Slash at his finest and I think we all know what he is capable of in terms of writing beautiful melodies. The blues is a great song and so is FTP.

[AxlsPiano]

Someone said already that the beginning has a hint of GNR's "Yesterdays" in it, and I'd agree with that. It's a really nice melody. For some reason when I listen to it i think its got the same vibe like that Pearl Jam song..i think its called "Elderly Woman Behind A Counter In A Small Town" or something really long. I dunno why I think of that song when I hear this, maybe something sounds the same but i cant pinpoint it.

[D]

scott weiland rip off eddie vedder? surely u jest!

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Falcon you really need to get a clue.
I am so sick of your  bullshit.
Everything said on these boards are OPINIONS when are you going  to understand that.
I NEVER stated anything as fact its just your little imagination wanting to start shit.
Tell me how I stated it as a fact?
 I didnt say its a fact that so and so is better.
So tell me how.

And again yet another slash lie, he always said he hated ballads yet he is doing quite a few in VR. Good job slash.

[slashedguns]

Falcon you really need to get a clue.
I am so sick of your  bullshit.
Everything said on these boards are OPINIONS when are you going  to understand that.
I NEVER stated anything as fact its just your little imagination wanting to start shit.
Tell me how I stated it as a fact?
 I didnt say its a fact that so and so is better.
So tell me how.

And again yet another slash lie, he always said he hated ballads yet he is doing quite a few in VR. Good job slash.

Heres something different,Dave-gnfnrk getting all aggressive when he reads that other people actually like something he doesnt like..Axl will save you buddy,keep hanging on

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I am not getting aggressive that people like the song, I am getting annoyed at Falcon for trying to say because I said the blues is better that I am stating it as fact.

You slash lovers really need to learn how to read and comprehend. It?s not too hard.

Anyone will half a brain can see that, but I guess some people just make up stuff or ignore the true point to try and start shit.  

[Booker Floyd]

And again yet another slash lie, he always said he hated ballads yet he is doing quite a few in VR. Good job slash.

Whether he says he hates ballads or not, he always done them...so wheres the inconsistency?  He did them in GNR, Snakepit, guest appearences ("Street Child")...and hes still doing them in VR.  

Quite a few?  Quite a few is the 9 or 10 ballads on UYI.  VR has 3 amidst an album full of rockers.

But why am I trying to reason with you?  

[dave-gnfnr2k]

And again yet another slash lie, he always said he hated ballads yet he is doing quite a few in VR. Good job slash.

Whether he says he hates ballads or not, he always done them...so wheres the inconsistency?  He did them in GNR, Snakepit, guest appearences ("Street Child")...and hes still doing them in VR.  

Quite a few?  Quite a few is the 9 or 10 ballads on UYI.  VR has 3 amidst an album full of rockers.

But why am I trying to reason with you?  

3 songs out of a 12 is a lot.
That is 25%.

As for the UYIs you say they had 9 well that is 9 out of 30 songs which is 30%
Pretty close if you ask me

[Falcon]

Falcon you really need to get a clue.

After examining each of our posting history, one would venture the cluelessness wouldn't be pointing my direction.

I am so sick of your  bullshit.

Objectivity is a tough concept to grasp, hang in there, it'll all click....
sometime.

Everything said on these boards are OPINIONS when are you going  to understand that.

Wrong.  Plenty of facts are discussed on these boards, along with our share of shameless fanboy propaganda stated that way.

I NEVER stated anything as fact its just your little imagination wanting to start shit.
Tell me how I stated it as a fact?
 I didnt say its a fact that so and so is better.
So tell me how.

Here you go:

"Its not even close to the blues"

"The blues lyrics are by far better and the guitar solo is the blues is better than FTP also."

How's that for examples of opinions stated as fact?

More facts:
As you'll see in my post regarding this song, I don't like it.

As you'll see in my post history, I'm hardly a "Slash lover".

I say the following with all honesty, and to some degree, pity.

Not attacking anyone by any means, I never have.  

That said, It seems as though the emergence of VR and the success/attention etc. the project is getting is taking the levels of bitterness displayed by some to all new heights.  

[Booker Floyd]

3 songs out of a 12 is a lot.
That is 25%.

As for the UYIs you say they had 9 well that is 9 out of 30 songs which is 30%
Pretty close if you ask me

The album is 13 tracks with a bonus ("Bodies," I understand).  Thats 14 tracks.  "Negative Creep" is supposedly a B-side as well...

Thats beside the point because percentages are meaningless.  Its simple: 3 ballads is 3 ballads...not would I would call "quite a few".

[metallex78]

I am not kididng and Finck is an amazing guitar player.
Axl seems to think and so does Trent.
They would not have them in their bands if they did not think he was good.
As for VR I am sorry to tell you but they are alternative rock they are not hard rock like old gnr was.
So call the new gnr nu gnr all you want but their songs are much better than VRs.

As for you Falcon of coarse its subjective, everything when it comes to music is.
So what is your point? Instead of stating the obvious why not make an opinion and stop wasting peoples time.

I really don't know what the point is your getting at.

Yeah I agree Finck is a good guitarist, but his style is hardly any more hard rock like original GNR than the comparisons you are making with VR.
Silk Worms, Madagascar, hard rock? I think not.
And that's not saying the songs are bad.

But everything I've heard from VR is most defeinitely hard rock, at least to my ears it is.

[Falcon]

But everything I've heard from VR is most defeinitely hard rock, at least to my ears it is.

I think it's a modern take on hard rock, a definate evolution for Slash and Duff.  No more over indulgent solo's or clanking basslines.  

The live show is definately a throwback to GNR pre Illusions.  Loud, sweaty balls out adrenaline fueled riff driven rock music.  Not to mention the presence of one Scott Weiland.  Questionable wardrobe but unquestioned
charisma.  The Weiland /Slash dynamic is incredible as well.

Back on topic, I still don't care for the tune.  Just my opinion of course..

[Booker Floyd]

Back on topic, I still don't care for the tune.  Just my opinion of course..

No surprise there...We knew that from the very first description of the song...

Is there any ballads you do like, Falcon?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

But everything I've heard from VR is most defeinitely hard rock, at least to my ears it is.

I think it's a modern take on hard rock, a definate evolution for Slash and Duff.  No more over indulgent solo's or clanking basslines.  

The live show is definately a throwback to GNR pre Illusions.  Loud, sweaty balls out adrenaline fueled riff driven rock music.  Not to mention the presence of one Scott Weiland.  Questionable wardrobe but unquestioned
charisma.  The Weiland /Slash dynamic is incredible as well.

Back on topic, I still don't care for the tune.  Just my opinion of course..

A throw back? Oh you got that right, they lamely ripped off the gnr into.
You wanted to best, well they didnt make it.....etc etc

how fucking orginal is that  

[Booker Floyd]

A throw back? Oh you got that right, they lamely ripped off the gnr into.
You wanted to best, well they didnt make it.....etc etc

how fucking orginal is that  

Yeah, they ripped themselves off...

So clueless...

Good to see your criticism is limited to something as trivial as that    Of course now youll go ahead and struggle to pick apart the actual performance, but youre just as transparent and childish as ever.

[Falcon]

Back on topic, I still don't care for the tune.  Just my opinion of course..

No surprise there...We knew that from the very first description of the song...

Is there any ballads you do like, Falcon?

Two that come to mind:

SCOM of course, the song is just so damn good it transcends the genre.

"Edie, Ciao Baby" by The Cult, probably a stretch putting it in the power
ballad category but a little less aggressive than what I'm accustomed to from one of my all time favorite bands.

And to clarify, just because I don't care for songs like Madagascar, The Blues, NR, Patience, Don't Cry,and for that matter FTP, doesn't mean they're not good songs, just not my cup of tea.  My musical tastes were bourne out of punk, moved towards British new wave/goth and evolved into the alternative mainstream of the early 90's. Power ballads just weren't prevelent within those genres, therefore, my lack of regard for them.

[Falcon]

But everything I've heard from VR is most defeinitely hard rock, at least to my ears it is.

I think it's a modern take on hard rock, a definate evolution for Slash and Duff.  No more over indulgent solo's or clanking basslines.  

The live show is definately a throwback to GNR pre Illusions.  Loud, sweaty balls out adrenaline fueled riff driven rock music.  Not to mention the presence of one Scott Weiland.  Questionable wardrobe but unquestioned
charisma.  The Weiland /Slash dynamic is incredible as well.

Back on topic, I still don't care for the tune.  Just my opinion of course..

A throw back? Oh you got that right, they lamely ripped off the gnr into.
You wanted to best, well they didnt make it.....etc etc

how fucking orginal is that  

GNR ripped off Kiss in the fist place, so the mention of originality, or lack thereof, falls back on GNR.

[Pviljoen]

Hmm guys...

I'm a huge fan of GNR and VR work... along with the kick ass shit that came off Apetite... I love Axl's ballads.

and right now Fall To Pieces sounds like a boring ass Nickleback song with a Slash solo... maybe I'll come around. I am just not impressed at all by this song (according to the fairly good bootleg I heard...)

[dave-gnfnr2k]

A throw back? Oh you got that right, they lamely ripped off the gnr into.
You wanted to best, well they didnt make it.....etc etc

how fucking orginal is that  

Yeah, they ripped themselves off...

So clueless...

Good to see your criticism is limited to something as trivial as that    Of course now youll go ahead and struggle to pick apart the actual performance, but youre just as transparent and childish as ever.

I already gave my view on this song and I will on the others when I have time.