Dizzy,"Estranged" and "Coma" both don?t have chorus and they are both GREAT
. The PROBLEM is that everyone in VR thinks that Slither has a chorus (the part "Here comes the water") but that part is so boring that is doesn?t deserve to be repeated as a chorus and it can not be considered a proper chorus. So it?s like chorus was non-existent on the song, and there could be one, believe me, right after that part!
Kockstar99,The ones Izzy wrote will NOT be the best ones because they will NOT be on the album
(Slash said that in a recent interview)
oldleadbelly,When I say "no chorus" I mean the chorus is so WEAK that it doesn?t even look like one. And if the guys in the band had tried just a little bit harder
they could CREATE a proper chorus right after that part they consider the chorus.
And when you say that "if Izzy and Duff were singing, VR wouldn't be taken nearly as seriously as they are now", really man, I think this should not be important - to be taken seriously. The important thing is to have great music. Izzy, Slash, Duff & Matt could record ten albums by themselves and tour EASILY wherever and whenever they wanted, and I am sure there would be lots of recording companies trying to hook up with them.
Falcon,When you said "Weiland gets them into places they couldn't even sniff with Izzy or Duff fronting the band (IE KROQ and other Modern Rock heavyweights)", would it really bother you if they were NOT on KROQ and had Izzy & Duff singing?
Back on topic... I give a fuck. I wish the songs was better (had a better structure) and I couldn?t care less if it WAS NOT getting played all over the place. Appetite had to be around for a year until it got airplay. And it gets airplay up till today, because it is great. I don?t think Slither will be playing on radio too much in the future...
Bitching about structure is bitching about what needs to be bitched about.
Booker Floyd,I am telling you that the part of the song you've liked all this time is not actually A chorus, because it sucks so bad to be one, it sound more like a bridge, and there could/should be a GREAT chorus right after it.
PeterCoffin,Slither is totally standard music: intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus.
tomass74,I have a hobby already. Discuss GNR related stuff here, that is.
metallex78,Try Sweet Caress to see how good Izzy solo is. Oh, there ain?t much solo stuff from him that is on par with GN'R material he wrote because it was Axl & Slash & Duff & Steven that made Izzy material MORE than special on GN'R.
SLCPUNKI'm just glad to have a song too! But I can?t help think how Slash & Duff & Matt were stupid to throw away Izzy?s call. Because they can not even make a decent chorus on their first single.
madagas,I agree that radio airplay and format don't mean shit. Good music means a lot. What I am pissed about is that this song has a totally standard comercial format intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus but the chorus is so bad that it doesn?t even look like a chorus!
mrfarr,BELIEVE ME I know there is no law into how to write a song. BELIEVE ME I KNOW it's not just verse - chorus - verse chorus - solo. But Slither is just verse - chorus - verse - chorus - solo. The thing wich I am trying to say is that the chorus sucks.
Oh, just for the record, I, alone, can NOT do better. But if I was the producer of VR I?d push them to WAY better stuff, no doubt about that.
blues_rock_axeman,I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT No chorus=no issue. The problem is that the band thinks that the part "Here comes the water" IS the chorus, since it?s repeated several times on the song.
Kockstar99,songwriting is where they fall short and Izzy does not...
mrfarr,I love instrumental songs. The Blues Jam on Pasadena 87 is a must-listen on all the instrumental jams GNR has played. The Indiana 91 instrumental jam is great too. Just as much as the extended-intro and extended-final of DTJ on 1991-93 gigs.
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