GN'R Behind THe Music is supposedly being produced.

[Dizzy]

if axl is not involved vh1 might not get permission to use gnr music on it.

They already play GNR music on various other shows.  Geffen is the one who owns the master recordings, so they wouldn't need Axl's consent anyhow.

[SINSHINE]

I agree with some of you and think that if this truly is a GN'R Behind the Music, Axl will most definitely be involved and it will coincide with the release of Chinese Democracy in some way.

Could VH1 do a Behind the Music without Axl's participation....sure they could. You don't need permission to air or print an editorial about someone/thing. However, you know how packed with music clips these shows are and that's where they'd run into trouble and would need the almighty Axl's authorization.

Be that as it may, I don't believe VH1 would even concider doing a Behind the Music on GN'R without Axl. Say what you want about the talent of the other members, Axl is the one who will draw the fans to this. We've heard over and over again Slash and Duff's side of the story. Axl's side (outside of a rant or two here and there) is still pretty much in the shadows (as is Izzy's). Love him or hate him, tell me you wouldn't want to hear from Axl's own lips the reason behind the break up of the greatest American hard rock band of all time? Shit, I can't remember the last televised interview he's done outside of the 30 second VMA interview.

I hope this comes to light and if it does, you know Axl will be involved and you know Chinese Democracy won't be far behind.

[Counterfeit_God]

VH1 is owned by Viacom...who also own MTV.  Kurt Loder is the ONLY MAN IN THE WORLD who seems to be able to get an interview with Axl, and he works for MTV/VH1.

Also, when VH1 did the Megadeth Behind the Music, they had clips from The World Needs a Hero...the Deth album that was released most recent to the BTM.  They seem to always have soundclips from something recent.

[killingvector]

I think they have given up trying to get axl for this feature and pretty much decided that slash and duff were enough coupled with archived footage of axl. Maybe toss in some scott and perhaps some steven, izzy (who knows) and they have enough to bash axl for an hour.

GnR is a great music story; i really think vh1 decided that they couldn't wait for someone who was never going to participate.

[SINSHINE]

Also, when VH1 did the Megadeth Behind the Music, they had clips from The World Needs a Hero...the Deth album that was released most recent to the BTM.  They seem to always have soundclips from something recent.

Metallica's BTM first aired the week Garage Inc. was released. Aerosmith's BTM first aired the week their latest greatest hits album (Oh, Yeah!) was released. I also believe that Brittany Spears latest album coincided with her BTM premiere.

If there's a GN'R BTM, I think we will see Chinese Democracy out soon after.  

[axl1962]

There is now way Axl will speak on this behind the music.  For starters he will not want to give attention to the ex-members.  But mainly he will want to keep the aura of mystery that surrounds him.  I just can't picture him sitting there on camera talking about Slash and what went wrong.  I will agree that this may be something the record label wants out there timed with the release of Chinese Democracy.  However, we all know Axl and his label rarely see eye to eye.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Matt said he and Axl used to have "so much fun" it was it was insane.  He said the memories are "surreal"..

 

Did he give any specifics?  Matt does try to be courteous - I've noticed that.  Remember when he was on the Sharon Osbourne show, and Sharon was making some remarks about Axl, but Matt defended him.

I really hope Axl participates. It might heal old wounds if they talk about the good ol' memories.  (No I am not implying a reunion), I just think it'd be nice if they were all friends again.

And Izzy better be included!!

[Falcon]

Why do you think this is a GN'R Behind The Music?


It might be a show about Axl....  



/jarmo

Navarro specifically said he'd done a segment for "VH1's GNR, BTM".  

That's the only info he gave so that's all there's is to go on so far.  Whether it's true and Dave has his facts straight remains to be seen.

Again people, Matt said he had not participated, this does not mean he won't be asked to, who knows how far the interview process has gone.

As for them using GNR music within the body of the show, I wouldn't be too concerned about it.  VH1 has aired plenty of GNR music during their "When Metal Ruled the World", "The 50 Greatest Hair Bands" and "The 100 Greatest Hard Rock Bands"
shows.

As for all things GNR, I'll believe it when I"m sitting in front of the TV watching it, until then, it's tempered enthusiasm.

On a side note, Matt also mentioned how Axl got the rights to the GNR name, great story....

[POPmetal]

that's where i would have to disagree with you. I don't think i have ever seen a behind the music premiere during a time when a band had nothing going on. Look back on all of the episodes, almost all of them, except the ones from the dead people, and sometimes even those were premiered to some sort of release. I am 100 percent sure this will be a marketing thing, however i am 99 percent sure it will not be marketing something of axl's. This will more than likely be out by the time vr's album drops in my opinion.

Def Leppard did theirs at a time when they had nothing to release.

While technically VH1 could do a Behind The Music without a band's consent, they have been giving bands a great deal of editorial control in order to secure their involvement. They are smart enough to know that a behind the music without new exclusive interviews would be a piece of shit and most people wouldn't care to see it. Using nothing but the 2 interviews Axl did with MTV to represent Axl would make VH1 look stupid and cheap.  

And why would a GUNS N' ROSES Behind the Music be used  to promote a band called VELVET REVOLVER? Sure, they both have a firearm in their name and 3 members of VR were in GN'R, but they are NOT the same band. A Behind the Music on GN'R might catch a few people's attention and inform them about VR, but it would do little to help Contraband sell.

[Thinizzy]

 Not to be a jerk but axl probably wont show up for his interview anyway.

 Dont the BTM episodes end in a positive way, hopefully they will shed some light on the current situation.
  Thinizzy

[killingvector]

how can they do a VH1 BTW on GnR in support of VR?

well, they could go with the angle that axl swindled the other members of the group out of the name, drove the band into the ground, while the real members have moved on together and now with a new singer front a group that is more GnR than the current line up boasting that moniker.

I don't agree with this portrayl, but i would think this travesty would be pumped out by VH1. That cursed VMA and US tour mess have soured MTV's regard for axl, i fear.

[Will]

On a side note, Matt also mentioned how Axl got the rights to the GNR name, great story....

Could you tell us more about this?
Thanx!

[Falcon]

On a side note, Matt also mentioned how Axl got the rights to the GNR name, great story....

Could you tell us more about this?
Thanx!

Sure.

Matt said it was after a show back in the UYI days, typically, they were all wasted out of their minds when "lawyer types" presented them with papers to sign.  To there own detriment, they signed the documents in their impaired states and relinquished the rights to the name "Guns N Roses" soley to Axl Rose.  Matt took full responsibility for his actions and said he immediately realized that was in fact, the beginning of the end.

Matt spoke with no bitterness whatsoever although Navarro joked with Matt how turning down Axl's offer was the best professional decision he ever made.

[D]

by saying axl is gnr i mean currently axl is gnr

no way did i mean that from the old lineup he was gnr
cause i respect and know how valuable every member was

but in the present day and time GNR is axl rose

[SLCPUNK]

Not to be a jerk but axl probably wont show up for his interview anyway.

 

Classic.

[chineseilusions]

Well if they are interviewing dave I wonder if tommy,josh freese,richard,robin ,dizzy or chris will be interviewed

[alwaysoutparading]

Normally, I would totally believe that this is a GN'R BTM which will be told from th mouths of Slash, Duff, Matt, Izzy, Steven, etc,,, everyone BUT Axl... just because that's the way Axl is - uninvolved and probably not interested in defending himself in a 5 to 1 way.

BUT the fact that Matt said that he was not asked to participate yet & the fact that he didn't mention anything else about it makes me doubt his involvement. I mean, think about it. It's been pretty much proven that BTM works with the artists to promote their work. If this was to coincide with VR's album, then why wouldn't Matt have anything more to say about it? Why would we be hearing about it from DAVE NAVARRO's mouth and not Slash or Duffs?

I believe that Axl is definitely behind this. Now... whether he changes his mind after it's taped and whether it airs or not is a-whole-nother issue.

[HoldenCaulfield]

Obviously there is more to this than meets the eye. Matt would definitely be involved if this was to be a promotion-vehicle for VR. Him not being involved is a huge hint that Axl is involved. Besides, I have a strong feeling that Axl is getting fed up with all the shit with the press and everything, and is really fixin' to let loose with his story. I have a good feeling about this one...

[POPmetal]

how can they do a VH1 BTW on GnR in support of VR?

well, they could go with the angle that axl swindled the other members of the group out of the name, drove the band into the ground, while the real members have moved on together and now with a new singer front a group that is more GnR than the current line up boasting that moniker.

that sounds more like BTM on VR, not on GN'R. VH1 would look really stupid if they called it GN'R BTM.

[Johnnyblood]

Obviously there is more to this than meets the eye. Matt would definitely be involved if this was to be a promotion-vehicle for VR. Him not being involved is a huge hint that Axl is involved.

That's a really good point. If this was a VR themed BTM, Matt would have been involved and Dave Navarro would not have been involved.

Also, it's hard to picture VR's management or publicity having the juice make this happen for their own purposes. If it were possible to do a BTM without Axl's approval it would have happened years ago. I don't even think VH1 would want to do one without Axl's involvement, apart from the issue of Axl stepping in to put the kabosh on it.