Unwanted Illusions Unreleased Demos

[Freya]

Why on earth did GnR never release Just Another Sunday and Sentimental Movie?  Those are awesome songs.  

Who is singing on Sentimental Movie?  Izzy?

[ToMMyBoY]

Slash and Duff sing Sentimental Movie.

[Freya]

Really?  I thought I could hear Duff in the background.  But damn, that is a great song.

[Booker Floyd]

My guess is because they suck...

[grabaraxl]

duff sings on sentimental movie.
you can find those tracks on a bunch of bootlegs, being "unwanted illusions" one of them, but they're all pre-appetite demos. other songs that are from that era that made it to the illusions were "the garden" and "bad obsession". i guess those demos are from 1985.

[Izzy]

My guess is because they suck...

I think u've hit the nail on the head, Crash Diet should have been released, 'just another sunday' should be destroyed.....

[Lionel Hutz]

My guess is because they suck...

Exactly.
Seriously, those two songs are not awesome, they are embarrassing, especially the latter.

[Freya]

Exactly.
Seriously, those two songs are not awesome, they are embarrassing, especially the latter.

To each their own.  I really like them.  Although both are mid-tempo songs, maybe they wanted more rockers on the Illusions.  Whatever.  

[Captain P?l]

i though Slash was singing n sentimental crap movie..

[badintentions]

duff sings on sentimental movie.
you can find those tracks on a bunch of bootlegs, being "unwanted illusions" one of them, but they're all pre-appetite demos. other songs that are from that era that made it to the illusions were "the garden" and "mr borwnstone". i guess those demos are from 1985.

WRONG!!!   those demos were from 1989. don't pass off misinformation like it is fact.

[grabaraxl]

you're kidding, right?

it is a fact!
just listen to any intro to "bad obsession" during the 1991 tour - "this is a song we wrote 1 year before mr. brownstone".
now if you do the math, brownstone was on appetite, and it was released in 1987, and played on some 1986 shows, that's how i make the 1985/86 date.
and then, i got a copy of those demos in 1989, so it would be kinda hard to get them the same year they were recorded (no internet at that time!).
"crash diet" is also from around 1985, as stated on an Asphalt Ballet interview (Axl co-wrote that song with the guitarrist from that band, and you can hear their version on the album "pigs").

even if we didn't know anything about the history of those songs, just listen to them and compare them to the UYI demos (the mates rehearsal sessions, for instance). the sound is completely different, and it's evident that it was recorded on a normal tape (actually if you listen closely to "bring it back home" you can see that it was recorded on top of "just another sunday" that wasn't deleted properly - just like an old bad tape recorder would do).

gn'r in 1989 had the best studio conditions to make reasonable demos, as you can hear on the ones available (civil war, dust'n'bones, coma, etc...)

[W. Botaxl Rose]

My God those are horrible songs. I'm embarressed they are even on bootlegs.

[badintentions]

you're kidding, right?

it is a fact!
just listen to any intro to "bad obsession" during the 1991 tour - "this is a song we wrote 1 year before mr. brownstone".
now if you do the math, brownstone was on appetite, and it was released in 1987, and played on some 1986 shows, that's how i make the 1985/86 date.
and then, i got a copy of those demos in 1989, so it would be kinda hard to get them the same year they were recorded (no internet at that time!).
"crash diet" is also from around 1985, as stated on an Asphalt Ballet interview (Axl co-wrote that song with the guitarrist from that band, and you can hear their version on the album "pigs").

even if we didn't know anything about the history of those songs, just listen to them and compare them to the UYI demos (the mates rehearsal sessions, for instance). the sound is completely different, and it's evident that it was recorded on a normal tape (actually if you listen closely to "bring it back home" you can see that it was recorded on top of "just another sunday" that wasn't deleted properly - just like an old bad tape recorder would do).

gn'r in 1989 had the best studio conditions to make reasonable demos, as you can hear on the ones available (civil war, dust'n'bones, coma, etc...)

some of those songs may have been WRITTEN in 85 but if we are talking about the same batch of songs (sentimental movie, crash diet, bad obsession, the garden (without alice), bring it back home, too much too soon, just another sunday etc. they were recorded in 1989 at rumbo studios. i guarentee it!

[GitFuckedUp]

Why would they use a drum machine if Steven was still in the band? That proves it.