where are the haters?

[speed_stone]

did you notice, the haters and constantly negative people on this forum are mysteriously missing now that we actually have heard from two of the bnad members in the past few days. guess this is not what they hoped for. just wanted to mention that.

[HoldenCaulfield]

Exactly. People love to bash Axl and the band, but when someone comes out of the camp and says something, they back to digging in his ass...

[bill213]

Uhm by hater do you mean this?  Just because Axl Rose wrote a letter doesn't mean we know shit still because he didn't go into any detail about anything other than Buckethead.  Shit ain't going down for some time so I suggest you go back to the drawing board.

[Booker Floyd]

did you notice, the haters and constantly negative people on this forum are mysteriously missing now that we actually have heard from two of the bnad members in the past few days

 

No?  Ive seen as much criticism in the wake of the press release as ever.  

guess this is not what they hoped for.

Yes and no.  Yes, Ive wanted a statement..and I got one.  I appreciate that.  However, like a movie with a disappointing ending, I found very little to be answered.  Shows cancelled, no real reason why (i.e. no reason given that they cant perform without Buckethead), no release date, no word about Philly, more blaming...etc.

The common misconception that the more overzealous Axl fans have about the so-called "haters" (who in most cases are simply fans who are critical of Axls bullshit) is that they dont want to see Axl fail.  They want to see him succeed and put out the damn album already.  But theyre so used to seeing him fail that they no longer have any illusions about it...no denial.  

[Mr_Brownstone16]

I am probably considered a hater.............but i want the new album to be better than ever. Gn'r has been my favorite band for 13 years since i was 9. They inspired me to get into playing guitar, then into recording music, then into selling pro audio stuff. I'm just tired of all the bullshit.........If there never is a new album, then fine. But don't go off continuing to cancel tours and keep saying the album is gonna come out.  I will listen to whatever has come out till  I die, I'm just tired of the bullshit. Plus 60% of the people on here are Axl nutswingers, and used to be buckethead nutswingers till he jetted. I like everybody, Axl, Slash, Bucket, whatever........ I don't care I just want kick ass music. No frooty press conferences blaming Buckethead for the album never coming out, or blaming Slash. Just fucking release the album or go away.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Uhm by hater do you mean this?  Just because Axl Rose wrote a letter doesn't mean we know shit still because he didn't go into any detail about anything other than Buckethead.  Shit ain't going down for some time so I suggest you go back to the drawing board.

Nice rack, bill213...but those arent real  

yeah, you're right, they do need to go back to the drawing board and realize that this forum is more than just the gnr section.  The VR section, and The Jungle are great places to hang out and chat with other gnr fans...

[Dizzy]

No?  Ive seen as much criticism in the wake of the press release as ever.  

So have I, so I don't know what this guy is talking about.  There is even a thread dedicated to the funniest quote in Axl's ridiculously hilarious press statement about how Buckethead is the one who is erratic, unreliable, and transient.  Coming from Axl, that statement makes me laugh every time I think about it.  

[estranged.1098]

Shows cancelled, no real reason why (i.e. no reason given that they cant perform without Buckethead)

He gave the reason why the one show was cancelled in the first line of his letter.

no release date,

Did you read the full letter? Last paragraph: "Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months." Sure, I know most bands would immediately announce the release of a new album together with the announcement of the departure of a lead guitar player, but that GN'R seems to do everything the wrong way, right ?

no word about Philly,

You heard it from Dizzy already, quite complaining.

more blaming...etc.

What "more blaming"? Has Axl been blaming things on other people for the last year or so? Or were you complaining that he wasn't saying anything in that period of time?

Besides, it's clear that he blames himself and BH for what happenned. I don't know a person who could justify a show cancellation without blaming someone, specially when they're telling their side of things.  

Did you expect Axl to say "BH left because I wouldn't tour, even though we were starting a tour in two months." No, you get that from BH's hand puppet. Axl tells things as he sees them.

The common misconception that the more overzealous Axl fans have about the so-called "haters" (who in most cases are simply fans who are critical of Axls bullshit) is that they dont want to see Axl fail.  They want to see him succeed and put out the damn album already.  But theyre so used to seeing him fail that they no longer have any illusions about it...no denial.  

If only every band had "fans" like you...

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Axl's ridiculously hilarious press statement about how Buckethead is the one who is erratic, unreliable, and transient.  Coming from Axl, that statement makes me laugh every time I think about it.  

I Lmao'd about the 'transient' part - it actually made me want to defend a guy with a chicken bucket on his head.

At least Robin's msg was positive without being negative.

p.s. I shoulda guessed you werent into Christian rock - my bad  

[estranged.1098]

No?  Ive seen as much criticism in the wake of the press release as ever.  

So have I, so I don't know what this guy is talking about.  There is even a thread dedicated to the funniest quote in Axl's ridiculously hilarious press statement about how Buckethead is the one who is erratic, unreliable, and transient.  Coming from Axl, that statement makes me laugh every time I think about it.  

Some people commented on the "Nice guy!" quote. I'm sure you couldn't laugh about that because then you wouldn't be a very good "hater"  

[Reinaldo]

did you notice, the haters and constantly negative people on this forum are mysteriously missing now that we actually have heard from two of the bnad members in the past few days. guess this is not what they hoped for. just wanted to mention that.

Yeap... when the BH thing started, those who always wanted him to get out suddenly shut up. And after those official words from Axl and Robin, they went on vacation.
Curious, isn?t it?

[speed_stone]

yes it is.

[matt88]

You could put me in the haters category and i'm still around

[K-Rock]

I'm no hater, in fact I always defended Axl..........but enough is enough and the excuses just keep coming.

Although the message from Robin was reassuring that they intend on moving forward.

I'm sure Stinson, Fortus & Reed are still on board.  Hopefully Brain stays.

Just cuz somebody doesn't eat up every word Axl says, doesn't make that person a hater........doubter maybe.

[echrisl]

Miss me?  I'm still here, and making my viewpoint known.

Just because you solicited the views of a "hater" then I'll let you know:

Axl gave a bullshit letter full of his bullshit excuses.  He didn't take an opportunity to even address Philly, which is juvenile of him, but he probably couldn't figure out who he could place the blame on.  Even now I'm sure he's working on another draft of that letter:

"Dear Fans,

I deeply regret having to cancel the show in 2002 at Philly.  

You see, I was on my way to the concert when I realized that I hadn't had my personal assistant make my my peanut butter crackers yet.  I can't go on stage without my peanut butter crackers, if I do I am unable to focus, because my blood peanut butter level will have dropped below .05 %.  I also cannot make peanut butter crackers for myself, the risk of damaqe to my delicate hands it too great, and I wouldn't be able to hold the mike while dancing around.  

I didn't want to risk possible hand damage, as that wouldn't be fair to you, the fan.  I tried to locate someone who could make me a peanut butter cracker, but the taxi driver wasn't willing to make me any peanut butter crackers, and I realized there was simply no way I could go on without those crackers, so I decided to go to Dennys.  Surely they would make me some peanut butter crackers.  

Sadly, once I arrived at Dennys I had to wait 30 minutes for a table.  Once I was seated I ordered my drink and waited for the waitress to return.  She was gone quite a while (Dennys was extremely busy).  I was unable to locate peanut butter crackers on the menu, but I was sure that I could get some.  THEN, the waitress had the audacity to tell me that the chef would not make me peanut butter crackers.  

I'm Axl mother-fucking Rose!  When I tell you I want peanut butter crackers I get some god damn peanut butter crackers.  I  told that waitress that I was going to dedicate Double Talkin' Jive to her tonight and then I walked out to find some peanut butter crackers.  

Long story short, I was unable to locate any establishment that would serve me my peanut butter crackers.  I searched and searched, but no one would make me any peanut butter crackers.  I finally realized that I had already missed the concert.  I was devastated.  Had I only known how these immature people would impeed my efforts to give a quality concert I would have made sure that my personal assistant didn't forget my peanut butter crackers.  So, as you can see, my assistant and these resteraunt workers were to blame for the cancellation, with their immature attitudes and constant attempts to undermine what kind of band I had built out of Guns N' Roses.

Sincerely,

W. Axl Rose"

Then Axl decides that won't work, and adds it to the reject pile, and begins letter 887656 to explain the Philly cancelation.

But at least he took time out of his valuable schedule of Philly letter explaination writing to write you a letter blaming Buckethead for the RIR cancellation, and I certainly can't find anything to complain about with that, can I?

[D]

echrisl that was fuckin hilarious!!!!!!!!

im an axl nuttswinger but i gotta give credit where credit is due that was fuckin priceless shit there!

[Siliconmessiah]

You wanna know where the haters are?

Well, I know HORDES of people that has disappeared from the "gnr-fan-scene", and completely lost interest, and won?t EVER buy something signed with Guns n Roses. Ever that is...
And that?s the new bands fault, completely, sadly.

But I?m still hanging in there though...

/
Sil

[noonespecial]

Good One Echrisl
The Buckethead fans have gone to the amusement park...Buckethead has returned home and we are gearing up for the solo tour with Paticle next month...imagine that, a show that will actually HAPPEN!
I agree with whoever said we are not "haters" (such a strong word) and we would love to see Axl actually "get his shit together" -- but I'm too damn old to be defending a 42 year old adult, as if he were a 6 year old child who has not developed any sort of cognitive reasoning ...it amazes me that no one sees that the energy that Axl has put out has come back to him...not bashing here...just observing...you attract what you put out, and that 3 paragraph tirade on how "erratic" Buckethead is, was
a. pretty damn funny coming from him
b. pretty damn low energy.

Good Luck Axl...there's always an opportunity to learn...

[badapple81]

Axl's ridiculously hilarious press statement about how Buckethead is the one who is erratic, unreliable, and transient.  Coming from Axl, that statement makes me laugh every time I think about it.  

I Lmao'd about the 'transient' part - it actually made me want to defend a guy with a chicken bucket on his head.

At least Robin's msg was positive without being negative.

p.s. I shoulda guessed you werent into Christian rock - my bad  

Maybe.. coming from Axl.. that goes to show exactly how bad Bucket was.. ?

[BottleOfPills]

I'M NOT A HATER.

lol

I'm just not a sheep and can call a spade a spade.

We've heard from "THE" band member - blaming everyone but himself.

And another bandmember toeing the party line.

Is there a new album?  Is there an Official Release Date?  Is there an upcoming concert?  We are no better off than we were Monday.  Other than we have a "press release" and a post on an website and one less concert to look forward to.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS