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March 30, 2004, 11:59:24 AM »
I think it's Dizzy's fault!!!
Haha, I knew for sure it was going to be cancelled and that "the buckethead incident" was going to be the reason. That's easy.
I guess every one with common sense knows that...
When CD is released in 2014, who wants to book GUNS N' ROSES for a festival? WHO? a fool with no brains!!!
What a fucking joke!!! Hahaha... Shit, man!
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March 30, 2004, 11:59:36 AM »
bucket is to blame on this one, axl released a letter and tried to explain things, but it makes sense when u think about it, bucket has released how many solo records while in gnr?
maybe he was so interested in his solo efforts he held shit back that couldve helped gnr but instead used it for his solo efforts instead
ive always said whenu are in a band u have to be 100 percent committed to that band, bucket obviously wasnt doing so many solo records a year
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March 30, 2004, 12:42:24 PM »
ah what did i say all those weeks ago, no buckethead = no GN`R playing live = no RNR
...and, no new songs to be played
I`m thinking CD will come out and that will be that [no live shows what so ever].
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March 30, 2004, 01:15:11 PM »
first of all we really need to be glad to hear from axl at all(no sarcasim here!)
Honestly i am not surprised to hear this cancellation BUT i am surprised how it turned out into a "Buckethead this stupid motherfucker refused to work on the album" kind of thing.
Certainly it is bucketheads fault too but come on people, just rewind a little in the history of GNR..the departure of the old band,axls fallouts,no shows and stuff.....?
To me it seems more realistic to assume te truth is somewhere in the middle.
By the way: Today i read in the german issue of "Rock Hard" that Gilby is no longer with heart and will not tour with them at all.As far as i concern i would like the idea.....
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March 30, 2004, 01:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Jonx on March 30, 2004, 07:09:09 AM
Great, just great
At least we have finnally heard something from Axl himself, even if it isnt good news. Looks like they had a European Tour planned after Rio, guess that is going to be thrown away aswell.
What worries me the most is this:
'this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further'
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Take recording an extra step further, more recording!!!!! meaning that this album is going to take even longer to be released.
This is a real blow, i finnally thought something was going to happen, but obviously not!!!!!
Jonx
What that means is, they (GN`R) have to find a new guitarist to play BH`s parts.
They then need to record the new guitarist and mix in his (unless it`s a girl
) sounds (thus removing any traces of BH. This also means BH won`t get a single penny/cent when CD is released!
)
...hey maybe i`m wrong. But i could just be right
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March 30, 2004, 01:38:57 PM »
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I found this statement particularly interesting. I wonder who he is referring to?
Also, you all should be thankful that at least we know, not that it will stop many of you from continuing to bitch and cry. But its always better to at least know.
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March 30, 2004, 02:55:32 PM »
Quote from: Death Cube K on March 30, 2004, 11:48:06 AM
Yeah, you go and tell him exactly what thousands of fans feels.
That HE let us down in a crucial moment.
My heart just isn't into it anymore, I really don't like crowds. I even found some Kermit the Frog bucket hats on Ebay that I was going to give him for being so nice to me in Vegas. But I just don't want to go anymore. I don't even care about the money i spent on the tickets.
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March 30, 2004, 03:05:55 PM »
Oh come on, you think Axl would wait for years for someone to work on an album?
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March 30, 2004, 03:10:10 PM »
Axl had better not go back and re-record bH's parts... we'll be waiting another 10 years for the album.
BH won't get any royalities (or very few) if he only played on the album and didn't write the songs. If he wrote songs he'll get money.
Axl had better not be so vindictive as to want to write new songs and just to spite bH. or else by that time someone else will get bored and quit, and the process will repeat.
Just release the fucker and get someone with more committement and personality.
ImO bh made the band look like a circus... I mean really the nunchuck's on stage, and the fucking chicken song, and starwars theme.... he was a total dork. a great player but no personality.
I'm glad he's gone
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March 30, 2004, 03:11:28 PM »
Quote from: Annie on March 30, 2004, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: Death Cube K on March 30, 2004, 11:48:06 AM
Yeah, you go and tell him exactly what thousands of fans feels.
That HE let us down in a crucial moment.
My heart just isn't into it anymore, I really don't like crowds. I even found some Kermit the Frog bucket hats on Ebay that I was going to give him for being so nice to me in Vegas. But I just don't want to go anymore. I don't even care about the money i spent on the tickets.
please go for all of us who cannot. try to state your opinion, i would but i am in germany, you see the problem
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March 30, 2004, 03:24:12 PM »
Why are you all so fuckin negative?
? Apart from the show cancellation,this is great news!!(no,I'm not on crack)
Axl is alive,the GNR project is alive,he actually explained the situation to the fans and said that these events rushed the release of the album!!!
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March 30, 2004, 05:23:11 PM »
::)To Caliigula. You don't think going is being disloyal to Axl? What should i say? Should i wear a Gnr shirt? Ihave a ROSE 8 shirt? I have to think about it because i am going by myself and men tend to hassle me so i REALLY have to want to see something to go. I mean it took ALOT of courage for me to go see GNR in Vegas by myself, but my love for Axl was my inspiration.
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March 30, 2004, 09:12:23 PM »
Quote from: Crashdiet on March 30, 2004, 03:10:10 PM
Axl had better not go back and re-record bH's parts... we'll be waiting another 10 years for the album.
BH won't get any royalities (or very few) if he only played on the album and didn't write the songs. If he wrote songs he'll get money.
Axl had better not be so vindictive as to want to write new songs and just to spite bH. or else by that time someone else will get bored and quit, and the process will repeat.
Just release the fucker and get someone with more committement and personality.
ImO bh made the band look like a circus... I mean really the nunchuck's on stage, and the fucking chicken song, and starwars theme.... he was a total dork. a great player but no personality.
I'm glad he's gone
I agree with you 100%. Like you said, "just release the fucker"!!!!
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March 30, 2004, 10:15:41 PM »
I don't think anyone has noticed this, but the cancelation of Lisbon is a big deal. According to Axl, a release date for the album is in a few months. Well, Lisbon is also in a few months. So it obviously was pretty crucial, cause it follows that we would have a release date by the date of the concert.
To address the people saying that he should do it with a replacement guitarist, i put forward the following:
In the next couple of months, Guns 'N Roses has two choices.
1)They can get a replacement guitarist for one show, spend months rehearsing and teaching this person the new parts. This person might, or might not, join the band, depending on alot of things. Ultimately though, the person is a compromise because they have such a short schedule.
2)The spend the time getting a good guitarist, then spend the time with that guitarist recording and learning the songs. This person is in the band for good, and is chosen by the whole band properly, instead of making a choice due to the time frame.
And given that the band has had 3 guitarists for at least 4 years, it's not that unresonable to assume that the new songs require 3 guitars, and that he is going to be playing new songs.
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March 30, 2004, 10:39:04 PM »
Without pointing any fingers, it's just a bummer that Buckethead is out because I enjoyed his part in the new GNR and liked his contributions. It's nice Axl wrote the letter to the public and it sounds honest and truthful from his point of view. And it makes me hopeful that Bucket's parts will stay on the CD at this point and won't cause a three year delay or something. Who knows. Life goes on in the meantime....
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March 30, 2004, 11:04:21 PM »
I think that there's a time question... Buckethead releases new Cds every minute, and Axl is the opposite, he works in every detail on Cds. Seems a little hard to work.
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March 31, 2004, 01:17:59 AM »
I think Bucket was proud to be in GN'R. No one knew who he was until he joined up with Axl. Maybe something will be worked out and everything will come at us at once like the 2002 tour. I mean something positive HAS to come out of all this mess.
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Quote from: Annie on March 30, 2004, 05:23:11 PM
::)To Caliigula. You don't think going is being disloyal to Axl? What should i say? Should i wear a Gnr shirt? Ihave a ROSE 8 shirt? I have to think about it because i am going by myself and men tend to hassle me so i REALLY have to want to see something to go. I mean it took ALOT of courage for me to go see GNR in Vegas by myself, but my love for Axl was my inspiration.
annie, it is not disloyal. you read the statement, Axl even thanked BH for his work.
you should go there and try to use every chance. yes, take a GNR t-shirt, expose it to BH during the concert or try to go backstage, mostly friends of BH are standing there, tell them what you feel. quite a lot of people got info that way.
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March 31, 2004, 09:51:37 AM »
I have decided to go. Iam going to try and get a chance to talk to him, I am a cute blonde so my chances are pretty good. Iam going to bring the Kermit bucket hats along with a note. Is there anything in particular that you want me to say?
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March 31, 2004, 10:27:07 AM »
I think that the way Axl worded about Buckethead's plan that he heard about from others is crucial.
Axl did not say that he knew any of those things for fact himself... he said that it is what he was told by others who had spoken to Buckethead.
I think if I could say something to Brian Carroll it would be to tell him that we are very dissapointed by his actions and that if what people have been saying to Axl about him is a misunderstanding that he should speak up and get it straightened out. If he has any respect or regard for the droves of GN'R fans that became Buckethead fans he should release a statement in response to Axl's.
Tell him that the way things look now he is losing a lot of fans that believed in him and that if that matters to him he should say something about this situation....
Tell him that his webmaster's comments and Bill Laswells' comments... and his manager's comments have been very cold and unless thats how he wants his GN'R fans to remember him he should say something.
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