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well that also puts me in the minority then, as I dont believe there'll be more than one album
and to be honest, one album (perhaps a double) is all I want
closure and a masterpiece that will mend somewhat the tarnished career of Axl Rose
then we can talk re-unions ....
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Jimmy, I feel the same. I'm definitely looking for closure and one album would definitely do it for me. Its highly unlikely CD will be a double. A 2 cd set would cost too much for the casual fan, and Geffen/Interscope is going to be wanting this album to sell in very large numbers. Tommy made a statement before about CD being a short album, and no one from the GNR camp ever corrected this statement. CD will most likely be Axl's best epics/ballads with a few rockers thrown in. I'm fine with that.
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Quote from: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2005, 02:34:38 AM
Jimmy, I feel the same. I'm definitely looking for closure and one album would definitely do it for me. Its highly unlikely CD will be a double. A 2 cd set would cost too much for the casual fan, and Geffen/Interscope is going to be wanting this album to sell in very large numbers. Tommy made a statement before about CD being a short album, and no one from the GNR camp ever corrected this statement. CD will most likely be Axl's best epics/ballads with a few rockers thrown in. I'm fine with that.
You could be right, but I see it being a long magnum opus type album, or a double.
Firstly, I don't think Tommy knows much about CD other than he worked on some music (tons of? instrumental fragments, jams and improvisational sessions) with a bunch of guys a few years back. Thats it - I dont think many 'songs' were completed with Tommy (nor Fortus, Dizzy etc..) so they don't have much of a clue as to what form or shape CD will take - they'll be as surprised as the rest of us when they hear CD. Now I'm exaggerating for effect a little here, but I do believe that with CD, Axl basically put a bunch of musicians under contract, gave them loose guidelines regarding ideas and left them to it while he recorded them. Im sure now and again he'd direct them (probably over the phone) regarding chords, tempo etc..
Basically, Axl has pieced this puppy together based on this - that has been Axls basic creative process.
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Yeah, I agree it wont be a conventional album. It wont be the same lineup playing on each song. There will be a wide variety of people playing on it. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh Freese, Paul Huge, and others were on the album.
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Quote from: jameslofton29 on July 04, 2005, 03:07:03 AM
Yeah, I agree it wont be a conventional album. It wont be the same lineup playing on each song. There will be a wide variety of people playing on it. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh Freese, Paul Huge, and others were on the album.
Quite possibly although I certainly hope Paul Huges nowhere near it
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a 3rd guitar player would be a bad news for me. useless (like bh). Give the job to richard let him take the lead.
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Quote from: nesquick on July 04, 2005, 03:22:31 AM
a 3rd guitar player would be a bad news for me. useless (like bh). Give the job to richard let him take the lead.
I'm sure Axl knows more than you if a third guitar player is needed.
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I saw Iron Maiden last week, I enjoyed seeing three guitarists, the stage was really lively. But as Voodoochild said, Axl will make the best choice for GNR
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Quote from: Pingouirose on July 04, 2005, 10:35:39 AM
I saw Iron Maiden last week, I enjoyed seeing three guitarists, the stage was really lively. But as Voodoochild said, Axl will make the best choice for GNR?
Lucky bastard, Maiden are always great. I didn't think much of Janick when he first joined, now I think he's great!
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Didn't Richard say the other week that it is just him and Robin handling guitar duties?
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What is the current guitarist situation in GN'R?
At the moment
, Robin Fink and I are the only guitarists in the band. We switch off between lead and rhythm.
Since the band do nothing now, it would be the present decision for next tour..
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Yep, Judge Dredd, Pingouirose
He also said most of his parts on the Chinese Democracy record were done, by the time he found Jellifish, say, before Xmas in 2002/3. So he didn't use jelly for the Chinese one .................
but maybe for the later ones... who knows?
That intensifies the probability of other albums or activities than Chinese being planed. we'll see.
Well, The visionary missionaries of the reunionism might prefer to stay clueless and say he doesn't know a shit about what he's done.
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Quote from: jimmythegent on July 04, 2005, 12:46:11 AM
IMO, the inclusion of Bucket in the new Guns was a masterstroke by Axl - I really think they need him back if this thing is going to be remotely successful
Agree completely, either get him back or some other (weird) virtuoso. I like FN'F, however they don't really get me excited - as I don't expect that they will ever deliver something
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Quote from: audjon on July 04, 2005, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: jimmythegent on July 04, 2005, 12:46:11 AM
IMO, the inclusion of Bucket in the new Guns was a masterstroke by Axl - I really think they need him back if this thing is going to be remotely successful
Agree completely, either get him back or some other (weird) virtuoso. I like FN'F, however they don't really get me excited - as I don't expect that they will ever deliver something
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. Slash is a guitar god because he was more than a great player - he was something else, as is Buckethead.
I agree. To replace Slash, the band needs a master. finck isn't that guy. Buckethead has demonstrated that he can not only play but write at a level that few active guitarists can. Personally, it is tough to defend this project if there isn't someone on board at Slash's calibre.
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Quote from: killingvector on July 04, 2005, 09:47:31 PM
Buckethead has demonstrated that he can not only play but write at a level that few active guitarists can.
Nothing against BH, I dig the guy..
But....
He's never written anything within the group dynamic that's even remotely memorable so let's hold off on
the "write at a level that few active guitarists can" type of comments.?
Taking nothing away from his immense skill, but maybe his talents are best served within a solo career or a jam band type existense.?
The constraints of a proper band just don't seem to be his cup of tea.
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finck is pretty creative, and kinda artsy on the guitar, i really like his style
fortus is sweet, just listen to the outro on the blues
and someone posted some recordings of him a while ago, they were awesome
i think they were called "jellyfish" or something like that
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Brain May is going on tour with Queen! Paul Rodgers has taken over on vocals. Very interesting! Brian May is not joining GNR, and this "insider" report is bogus, and a sophomoric attempt at attention.
I would reckon this fenton guy is laughing at the response on this board to a funny/sarcastic joke he made regarding his self-proclaimed "guitar god" status.
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Quote from: Falcon on July 04, 2005, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: killingvector on July 04, 2005, 09:47:31 PM
Buckethead has demonstrated that he can not only play but write at a level that few active guitarists can.
Nothing against BH, I dig the guy..
But....
He's never written anything within the group dynamic that's even remotely memorable so let's hold off on
the "write at a level that few active guitarists can" type of comments.
Taking nothing away from his immense skill, but maybe his talents are best served within a solo career or a jam band type existense.
The constraints of a proper band just don't seem to be his cup of tea.
really? I dunno Binge N Grab is a great song. Basic formula with an incredible solo. Overall, Bucket's solo work is much more demonstrative of his talents; Songs are constructed around his guitar and not around the traditional vocal melody. At his solo shows, he is the show. No singing, no pyro, just a very honest and humbling Bucket shredding and emoting with his axe. No offense to Slash at all, but the top hatted one has taken the more traditional route for a lead guitar player. i don't think it is a legitimate criticsim of Bucket's body of work because he hasn't stood up there and taken a smaller role in a band. How many active guitar players could carry a performance as he has done? there aren't too many. And yes, from what i've heard from Bucket, few modern players can write and play at his level. He is absolutley breathtaking.
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Im still hopeing BH comes back. From the sound of it, its parts are staying on the album since Fortus has not said he has been called back into the studio. He always says his parts were done a while ago. No one has mentioned Finck has been back in the studio either. So i really hope BHs parts stay and maybe he comes back.
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on July 05, 2005, 01:43:40 PM
Im still hopeing BH comes back. From the sound of it, its parts are staying on the album since Fortus has not said he has been called back into the studio. He always says his parts were done a while ago. No one has mentioned Finck has been back in the studio either. So i really hope BHs parts stay and maybe he comes back.
I hope too, but Tommy didn't said good things about Bucket. I guess he's a hard guy to work with, so I dunno if it will be ok after all to let him came back to the band. I know who's the boss, but I think the other guys have a word on this.
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