It's Official: Buckethead Out -MTV

[Flyguy_1ca]

We've seen the end and we can't hold on now...    
Odd how the lyrics say "they've seen the and you can't hold now"
This SUCKS!!!  

You might see the end.  I just see the begining.

Yeah, the beginning of the end  

[erose]

good to see someone whos optimistic up in all this fucking shit

[Jizzo]

Did I mention, I think this is the best thing to happen in the last year to the band. Bye Bye Buckethead.

[badgirl]

i can speak for myself because i never had much of an opinion on Buckethead but two things:

1. it doesn't matter if it was Fortus or any other member of Guns that is leaving. The larger issue is that Axl can't seem to get enough of it together for long enough to produce any quantifiable results. How much of this is his fault, i can't say and neither can any of you. The larger issue remains that the newest incarnation of Guns n Roses is a constantly evolving being that doesn't stay the same for long enough to give us much of anything.

2. Buckethead, to the people who aren't familiar with his talent (meaning those who are not rabid fans or trolling message boards) think he is wierd and sort of a joke. He is referred to by most of the public (the ignorant public, but the public nevertheless) as "that guy with the KFC bucket". A lot of you here think that he was the savior for Guns (and maybe talent wise, he was) but as far as overall public perception of the new band, i think he was a liability. It's hard to separate yourself from your already formed opinion of him, but if you ask someone who is uninvolved with the whole GnR world, who is not a rabid BH fan, they will tell you that he is wierd.

The larger issue, however, is that this is yet another bump in an interminably long road and it isn't going to make it any easier for Axl, or for us. So again, it would be better for you all if you just stopped trying to devise ways that this could work out. I realize that this board is a lot to most of you and we all get some satisfaction from posting on message boards, but to hold out hope, at this point is rather foolish and makes you, anyone who does, look quite desperate. No offense, you know, but it's time to face the facts.

[privatereserve]

Obvisouly some people see the glass half empty instead of half full.  I see the glass is half full, condsering they they are billed to play the the Rock Fest in Europe

[Pviljoen]

While I think Buckethead was a great player, I think his imagine and musical style was an embarassment to a band which built its reputation on being dangerous, volatile, and raw. Buckethead looked rediculous, and was FAR too polished... god his tone was even wrong with GnR... less treble please.

Fantastic player he was, but NOT for GNR. Most people found him rediculous, he got booed big time at the Toronto show. GNR is hard rock, not weirdo ass space/funk/shred whatever music bucket is into.

He was just a hired gun, so he is EASILY replaceable. I'm still going to Portugal for RIR4.

[Andrew]

Gutted if true!!

A sad day indeed

[Doc Emmett Brown]

The larger issue remains that the newest incarnation of Guns n Roses is a constantly evolving being that doesn't stay the same for long enough to give us much of anything.

It feels like one of the companies I used to work for (before it went down the drain). The CEO was constantly replacing my coworkers when he didnt 'need' them anymore. Never mind the fact they had children and spouses to feed.
When I joined, it felt like a family.  At the end, it felt like shit.

Obvisouly some people see the glass half empty instead of half full.  I see the glass is half full,

Because you only see Axl.   You wouldnt mind that dancing bear playing guitar at all, would you now?

[Buritoking]

Most people found him rediculous, he got booed big time at the Toronto show. GNR is hard rock, not weirdo ass space/funk/shred whatever music bucket is into.

What are you talking about, he didn't get booed at all. People went wild for his solo. And I wore a bucket it there to that show, and people would yell at me every to seconds, "YEA BUCKETHEAD RULES!". In fact in line to get metal detected, I got a buckethead chant going..your crazy....crazy..

[GunsLova]

You guys dont understand. BH was the main reason this band <b>could be a success</b> after all that happened. Many many younger people and guitar lovers and people in the industry had shown new interest in Guns n Roses only and only because of his presense.

I honestly donno what to think now. I have always been a Axl Lover..and many many times have had fights or argument with so called Haters on this board( exp: Booker, Dizzy....etc etc). But perhaps they were right all along???

Look I hate to say this but if this is true, GNR is not gonna be any greater than Ratt or Warrant or Skid Row.. Going through changes and changes and losing more and more credibility on daily basis.... Fuck man who is ever going to take this band seriously now??

I'm really really saddened right now. GNR is gonna be remembered as a band that could have been the next RS but never quite managed....

[GNRisSLASH]

Did I mention, I think this is the best thing to happen in the last year to the band. Bye Bye Buckethead.

Agreed. The guy was a freak. His music was lame. He contributed nothing.  Where are all the "Buckethead is better than Slash ever was" losers now? Where are all the "Slash and Duff were at fault for GnR's breakup" losers now?  If it isn't crystal clear to all of you that W. Axl Rose was the single reason the GnR isn't together today, then splash some cold water on your face, drink some black coffee, and WAKE THE F UP!  

I have two words for you all: VELVET REVOLVER

[RickDunsford]

didn't gnr make the RIR 4 annoucement after Buckethead left? it says that buckethead left at the end of last year?

[PS_PoWeR]

I may be reaching here, could technically couldn't Axl Rose still release Chinese Democracy WITH Buckethead's parts in it? He owns the material, right??

Maybe they could release Chinese Democracy "by Guns N' Roses.......featuring Buckethead". Meaning Buckethead wouldn't be in any of the group shots or part of the logo, but on the back of the jewel case there could be a small picture of him by himself with the small words "Featuring Buckethead."
That could work.......RIIIIIIGHT??  

This way, his parts could be kept in, and Axl would record the second album (to follow CD) without Buckethead without people expecting him to be in it.

[GNRisSLASH]

Is there anyone left now that still believes that Duff and Slash and Izzy were at fault for the break up of the 'real' GnR? Are there any "Axl can do no wrong" believers left that now think Buckethead was wrong, like Slash before him, and Izzy before him, and Duff before him, and Gilby before him, and Matt Sorum, and Steven Adler, and countless producers, and drummers, and Paul Huge, and all the other musicians that have been in and out of GnR since Axl went haywire???

W. Axl Rose has singlehandedly ruined the greatest rock band ever.  And if Buckethead walking out after a failed North American Tour and no shows in Philly and Toronto isn't enough to convince you then...

[Flyguy_1ca]

That's right, kick 'em when they're down...  

[GNRisSLASH]

I may be reaching here, could technically couldn't Axl Rose still release Chinese Democracy WITH Buckethead's parts in it? He owns the material, right??

Maybe they could release Chinese Democracy "by Guns N' Roses.......featuring Buckethead". Meaning Buckethead wouldn't be in any of the group shots or part of the logo, but on the back of the jewel case there could be a small picture of him by himself with the small words "Featuring Buckethead."
That could work.......RIIIIIIGHT??  

This way, his parts could be kept in, and Axl would record the second album (to follow CD) without Buckethead without people expecting him to be in it.

What part of "seven years" don't you understand? This album will never see the light of day. Ever. The only way you'll see it is if Axl dies and the record company released is posthumously.  He will never release it.

[patvalley]

I think Buckethead, along with Axl, were the real stars of this new lineup. GNR is in a very tough situation right now.

Here's what I think...Axl is fucked. For now...he needs to just release Chinese Democracy. WITH Buckethead's parts. I know you've all read this a thousand times, I have too, "release the album now, it's been too long!" But this is much different.

CLOSE THIS CHAPTER OF YOUR CAREER ALREADY!! Guns N' Roses hasn't progressed forward since when, 1996?? It's 2004. All of these past years have all been in anticipation of the release of CD. Sure there was OMG, some touring (...you know), the VMA's...but it all has led up to nothing. It almost makes you wonder if an album even exists, or if Axl is just trying to build a lot of excitement and hype just for fun (I know this isn't true, but hopefully you see my point).

He needs to release it now, before this drags on any longer. Unless if Axl thinks Buckethead's solos sucked ass (which I doubt), he should not re-record anything at all. I'm sure it is an amazing album, and just because he can't tour with the same lead guitarist...is no reason to spoil anything incredible that may be on the album.

If I was Axl, I would release Chinese Democracy to finally end the chapter of these last 7-8 years or so, then get a strong lineup together, rehearse, then tour. This would also hopefully clean up his relationship with Geffen (which would help Axl immensely if he wants to carry on with GNR).

If Eddie and Alex Van Halen joined GNR, that would be incredible. Or vice-verse (Axl joining Van Halen). I know it's not a real possibility, and I am hoping for a VH tour this summer anyways, but still, what a lineup.

Zakk Wylde would be great, but I just dunno if he would do it. Excellent guitarist though.

I don't think that just having Robin and Richard would be enough though. When I think of GNR, I think of Axl and one amazing, very unique lead guitarist alongside him...first Slash, then Buckethead. Both very different from eachother yet similar. Distinct style, great abilities.

Axl could end it all now, he could join an existing band/get a new one going, ...but after $13.5 million, I just can't see him NOT releasing Chinese Democracy. If he releases it now, all (or at least most) will be forgiven and most people will be able to move on, including Axl.

But damn. Fuck you Axl. Love your music, but...get it together man.

I don't even know if this post makes any sense at all, it's late, I'm tired, and I'm really really pissed about this. haha. I know it sounds kinda lame I guess but now half of the reasons why I was looking forward to CD (Buckethead and Axl) is now gone. None of the other members really excite me that much I suppose.

 

[Gunner17]

Over the past years I've seen rumors and everything come and go. But this is the first time where I acutally think that this is it.......I believe it's really over.

[Bubba St. Rose]

Blah, blah, blah... these conversations are getting boring. Who cares who was at fault and who wasn't. The sad thing is when the guys from the original band are old and useless and sitting in a nursing home they can all sit back and sulk about how they could have been the biggest band ever but instead threw it all away. Their whole story should be a public service commercial to pursuade kids that drugs are bad. They all wasted their 15 minutes of fame. Ego, ego and more ego. And now we're suppose to sit back and watch axl become more and more of a joke and then go out and buy a CD from Velvet Revolver to finance Weiland's drug habit. Sometimes I wish I never bought appetite for destruction!

[The Red Scare]

God, this is really depressing.

I'm sad.

There are very few people who can fill Brian Carrol's bucket.

Axl better fucking call Zakk Wylde.