Guns N' Roses Files Lawsuit against Greatest Hits

[Doc Emmett Brown]

could someone shine light on this

A statement from Rose's manager added that the greatest-hits set "will hinder the release of the band's long-awaited new studio album, 'Chinese Democracy."'

I tried to gain some insight into this troubling statement as well.  Pilferk & loretian made some valid points (see previous pages).... but I cant help feeling that the only reason GH is hindering CD is because Axl wants it to.

You can be against GH because of its so-called 'shoddy' tracklisting, typos, done without the band's consent, etc. These are all reasons to be against GH.  But as for hindering CD, well, just another lame excuse for a delay.

[Booker Floyd]

Step one: Don't buy the album.

if that fails

Step two: Boycott EVERYTHING released by Geffen

if that doesn't work

Step three: Civil Disobediance

failing all that...

All out hate mail campaign and then full blown riot on Geffens front door step!  

  to people actually making Geffen the "villian," as if CDs delay is their fault.  Yeah, they really want to hold off on releasing the album theyve invested so much in and just sit on it so they can release a Greatest Hits record instead.   Think about it...

This wont sit well with him.... like i said before he very well may take his ball and go home..

And like I said, hell probably get sued and the material might get released without his consent.

[kockstar99]

This wont sit well with him.... like i said before he very well may take his ball and go home..

And like I said, hell probably get sued and the material might get released without his consent.

That could take years in court and millions in lawsuit fees to happen...

[Jizzo]

I really think that Axl will push to get CD out. The GH can't infringe on something that isn't coming out.

[kockstar99]

its so fucking hearbreaking.... all this shit over some old ass songs that we all have anyways.....

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Who honestly thinks the courts are going to side with Axl?

I would hate to see CD released without his consent - what a bittersweet ending that would be to this often sad story.

[TealaRose]

Who honestly thinks the courts are going to side with Axl?

I guess it will depend on Axl's contract with Geffen. That is one piece of writing I would like to get my eyes on.

Personally, I think Axl (for whatever reason only he would know) has been trying to make Gefen go breech. -opinion-

[chineseilusions]

The U.S. District Court in L.A. turned down GUNS N' ROSES' petition today seeking a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction against Geffen Records seeking to prevent the label from releasing a greatest hits record from the band, according to Hits Daily Double. The suit claimed that GNR hasn't "been given the opportunity to approve the choice of songs, the artwork, the release date or the re-mastering done on the tracks included on this compilation." Today's decision clears the way for the album to come out as scheduled on March 23. A press statement from the band stated that the greatest hits set would "hinder the release of the band?s long-awaited new studio album 'Chinese Democracy'." Sources say that the label has advanced Axl Rose $10 million over the past six years for production of the album, which was slated to come out last year in the fourth quarter, but remains unreleased.

[darknemus]

LOS ANGELES (Reuters)
U.S. District Judge Dale Fischer denied their request for a temporary restraining order

What do we know about this dipshit??

email address?? phone number???

Please tell me you're not seriously suggesting harrassing a U.S. District Judge due to a ruling on a case?  That's just ?ber-fucked, if you are.

The judge looked at the case, decided GNR's lawsuit was without enough merit to issue an injunction - period.  GNR's welcome to appeal the Judge's ruling.  See, in the U.S. court system, that's how we do it - we don't go crank calling judges who make unfavorable rulings  

-darknemus

[Thinizzy]

With all of this going on, what are the chances we will get a official statement from axl?
 

[darknemus]

With all of this going on, what are the chances we will get a official statement from axl?
 

Next to none - the FIRST thing the Attorneys are gonna tell him to do is not discuss the case, period.  They would probably advise him to not say a word about anything - especially given the possible pursuit of a breach of contract type case by one or both parties.  Anything you say can be used in the execution of said case.

-darknemus

[Eazy E]

Hey guys the little coming soon thing under the news on GNRONLINE.com has been taken off.  I think we may get a message or something on there protesting the greatest hits soon.

That message expired because it was a year old.  "Stay Tuned" indeed.

Geffen officials had no further comment on the dispute. But a source familiar with the situation said the label has been waiting seven years for Rose to deliver "Chinese Democracy" and has poured $13 million into production of that album after repeated promises that he was about to finish the project.

"Every year there's been a new reason why Axl is not done with the record," the source told Reuters, adding that Geffen went ahead with the greatest-hits package only because Rose failed to come through with "Chinese Democracy." "Had he delivered this record like he promised seven years ago, this would not be happening right now."

I would totally ignore all of this.  Basically there source could be any Joe that has glanced at these message boards.  Examine the last few posts of Booker, it's basically the same shit this "source" said.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

See, in the U.S. court system, that's how we do it - we don't go crank calling judges who make unfavorable rulings  

 

I cant believe we actually have to spell that out for some people.

<sings Weird Al's Dont Go Making Phony Calls song in my head>

Please stick to the 7-digit numbers you're used to.  

[slashsaxl]

fuck around, you're not on the board for a few hours, and all hell has broken loose, i'm not reading 9 pages here, so what i got is that axl, slash and duff filed lawsuits against geffen to not to release gh....than something about a judge's ruling, have they already dismissed the lawsuit or something, sorry for being lazy and not reading, but if you wanna help out a young lad here and fill me in, that would be great, thanks



rock n' roll

[darknemus]

See, in the U.S. court system, that's how we do it - we don't go crank calling judges who make unfavorable rulings  

 

I cant believe we actually have to spell that out for some people.

<sings Weird Al's Dont Go Making Phony Calls song in my head>

Please stick to the 7-digit numbers you're used to.  

Anybody who can quote Weird Al - especially on a decent but not well known parody of a TLC song is ok in my book

-darknemus

[killingvector]

it could mean litigation, which everyone knows takes years.

i doubt buckethead, robin, brain, and tommy care about this case in court. They will leave when it appears that nothing will happen with this band in the near future.

Axl has one choice, put out CD and make millions. He can be a baby and take all of his toys back home with him, but the lawyers will come and get them eventually.

[badapple81]

It said a spokesperson for W. Axl Rose was not immediately available for comment..

Maybe we will get a comment soon?

Well I guess we can expect an extra track on the RIR4 bootleg titled "Axl's Greatest Hits Rant".. maybe he'll claim that he first heard of the GH album a couple of days ago when he saw it on the net..

Wonder if Mysteron has any info as to the state of things in the GNR/Axl camp.. I have no doubt that this will seriously affect the release of CD.. I remember a quote from a source at Geffen which said "If the album was good enough if would have been released a long time ago" or something like that.. I think Geffen are seriously pissed.

Who was it that posted the theory a while ago about the GH being the first step to force Axl to release CD? Its all making sense now.

[darknemus]

Who was it that posted the theory a while ago about the GH being the first step to force Axl to release CD? Its all making sense now.

Although I think others have pointed out the same thing, you might be referring to me.  My main 'source' (a word I hate) gets all of his information directly from, well, someone or a group of someones at Geffen.  (No clue who)

He's the one who told me right after IRS happened that it was to be the beginning of the 'twisting of the thumbscrews' to force a release.  As time wound on, I got a few more details - most of which I shared when I could.

Yes, it appears that Geffen have 'reached their wits end' with the red headed recluse.  The last conversation I had with my friend contained a rather telling phrase now, in hindsight.  "Axl's dick isn't as big as he thinks it is".. Interesting conversational fodder, if nothing else.

-darknemus

[Buritoking]

it could mean litigation, which everyone knows takes years.

i doubt buckethead, robin, brain, and tommy care about this case in court. They will leave when it appears that nothing will happen with this band in the near future.

Axl has one choice, put out CD and make millions. He can be a baby and take all of his toys back home with him, but the lawyers will come and get them eventually.

See my personal opinion, is that once this greatest hits cd comes out next tuesday, and at this point let's assume it will, then that really ends this whole thing. Then it will really come down to Axl either saying alright, screw that let's put this thing out so people stop buying the GH album, or screw them I'm not releaseing shit. Who knows, but one things for sure, RIR 4 is going to be the most interesting GnR concert ever.....period.

[Eternal Flaming Sword of Death...]

Maybe now is the more appropriate time to  say.......... "Round One" ?