Slash:"Axl burnt more than gnr ever earned"

[Doc Emmett Brown]

As weird as this may sound - having money costs money.

"Once you make that money, it costs more now"      
- Pretty Tied Up

Of course I wouldnt know seeing as I dont have 5 grand to burn on a neon Mobil flying horse!!

[Crowebar]

I don't think Slash at all insinuated that Axl was "broke" right now.

While Slash seems like an amiable, laid back guy, he doesn't strike me as the most intelligent guy, or much of a future planner.

Yeah and coming from a guy that has a  tattoo on his arm that means Drink Till U Die, that doesn't surprise me very much. I'm sure that at one point, Slash probably didn't think he'd live a very long life.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

those were some excellent replys
thank you

as far as Axl's financial standing... whoever has that kind of info i'm sure is professionally bound to confidentiality (his banker/his broker/ his accoutant / etc.)

i don't think it makes sense at this point for any past members of GN'R to complain about moneys they perceive were a waste... everything that they were known for - the grand videos, the best accommodations wherever they traveleved - even the fines for playing past curfew or the cancelled shows... those are all part of what made them known as Guns N' Roses... extravagance / excess / dangerous...  just a crazy ride.  They should look at it all as investments that was made into them becoming who they became - the legend that is Guns N' Roses.

and on a side note - Axl was known to NOT be part of the after show parties for most of the latter part of their touring.  The article that was just posted today here the guy says Axl was kind of in his own world...  that it was Slash & Duff who were the big party guys.  So so much for Axl blowing "theband's money" on partying.

I do like however that he insists on the best accomodations for the band.  LIke how when they went to Rio he didn't like the accomodations whoever set up for them so he paid himself for an enitre floor of the best hotel.  

If you don't treat yourself like that - don't expect anyone else to.  I think its an honest approach.  Fuck being 'humble' if thats not how you want to be treated.

I keep thinking about how Axl seemed to say how Slash lowered himself "playing with anyone from Space Ghost to Micheale Jackson".   I think its stuff like that that ends up putting you in the positon where the latin music awards doesn't even want to pay for your flight to appear on the show.

Slash should have never been in that position...  but I don't think Axl has anything to do with that.

Sorry for going off on a tangent  

[privatereserve]

Yeah one time out was hanging out at some bar at sunset strip and met some guys from a local hospital.  I asked them if they had to treat any celebs.  They told me Slash was in there all the time for ODs.  I asked them from what?  They said herion and drugs.  That was like two years ago.  I was like no way still to this day?  And they were like yep.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

privatereserve...

that messed up to hear

but now with being married and having kids i imagine he has at least tried to change his ways.. get help

i mean he's got a family to think about

and he's got scott to look after too, no?
he couldn't be any help to scott if he's using

oi vey!

though i think it was just a couple years ago he was on that show forever wild with sebastian bach  (you guys remember it?) and he was high on the show... it was a trip!  i wish someone had that on video
it was funny
  i dont' think they even finished the show with slash cuz the couldn't go on with him on camera...

anyway...   so Slash has wasted money on drugs/booze/partying
oh well... its part of the lifestyle he chose
i don't judge anyway.. cuz we don't know the whole picuture (we never do)

but i like the impression Axl has made over the years

and personally i don't think his house/property is that extravagant - not by malibu / hollywood standards

his house though is probably worth more thatn 10 times what he paid for it

and he's got at least two kick ass cars

one we heard he was seen in at the hard rock gigs....   who remembers what it was.... a corvette?  no... it was a mustang?  damn i can't remmeber

anyway the other was a ferrari spyder he was reported to be seen in

so good for him
he deserves it
and from what we hear/ the impression i get he supports children's charities generously
thats great

[Captain Obvious]

Hey guys, this isn't "Days of Our Lives".
Stop turning everything into a soap opera, you are neutering rock n roll.

Besides, how would any of you have any idea what Axl's financial situation would be? All this is is guesstimating.......

[privatereserve]

Hey guys, this isn't "Days of Our Lives".
Stop turning everything into a soap opera, you are neutering rock n roll.

Besides, how would any of you have any idea what Axl's financial situation would be? All this is is guesstimating.......

Hey I'm just speaking of the truth.  If you don't believe me look at the photos I sent Jarmo with Dizzy with my friends.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Hey guys, this isn't "Days of Our Lives".
Stop turning everything into a soap opera, you are neutering rock n roll.

Besides, how would any of you have any idea what Axl's financial situation would be? All this is is guesstimating.......

Hey I'm just speaking of the truth.  If you don't believe me look at the photos I sent Jarmo with Dizzy with my friends.

huh???

i don't know what that is all in referene to

i just thought that an interesting statement for Slash to make -
interesting is one of the words that could be used to describe it anyway

as far as knowing Axl's financial status...
well i'd say no news is good news
if we're not hearing anything about it then i'd say that means he's doing just fine

[slashedguns]

when will u guys realise that none of us know jack shit about the r5eecord industry and how much people make. Stop talking shit ,each member could have 5 cents left for all we know,or even $200 million. Its all just wasted effort

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

when will u guys realise that none of us know jack shit about the r5eecord industry and how much people make. Stop talking shit ,each member could have 5 cents left for all we know,or even $200 million. Its all just wasted effort

well... Slash should know something about it, eh?
he's the one who was talking about it!  

[Crowebar]

Yeah one time out was hanging out at some bar at sunset strip and met some guys from a local hospital.  I asked them if they had to treat any celebs.  They told me Slash was in there all the time for ODs.  I asked them from what?  They said herion and drugs.  That was like two years ago.  I was like no way still to this day?  And they were like yep.

Now, why am I not surprised to read something like this??? [headscratch]

[Will]

Of course, all of this is said with absolutely no knowledge of his investments, how much he was hit by the dot-com bomb of the late 90's, what type of royalty agreements exist.. is he picking up 3 cents everytime WTTJ is played at a sporting event?  What percentage of the current DVD sales go into his pocket, etc, etc.  

Relating to that, here's a little excerpt from a 2000 RS article:

"What would it matter really? Axl, Slash and Duff would always be, it seemed, the inseparable three. Money was everywhere. Guns N' Roses grossed $57.9 million right out of the gate in the four years from 1988 to 1992, according to documents produced during the Adler litigation. Overhead was enormous - expensive video shoots, first class everything on the road, all the clich?d rock-star excess - but a $57.9 million gross in that time span for a relatively new band is almost unheard of in rock 'n' roll history. The Rolling Stones didn't make this kind of money until years deep into their career. David Bowie raised $55 million in 1997 selling bonds tied to the earnings his first twenty-five albums. The Grateful Dead earned $40 million to $50 million a year touring, but not until the 1990s, after they'd been together for more than twenty years.

After a 17.5 percent commission to management, Axl and his band mates divvied up the money according to a specific formula, which Axl described once in court. During pre-production for Appetite, Axl said, "Slash devised a system of figuring out who wrote what parts of a song or part of a song. There were four categories, I believe. There was lyrics, melody, music - meaning guitars, bass and rums - and accompaniment and arrangement. And we split each one of those into twenty-five percent. When we had finished, I had forty-one percent, and other people had different amounts."

Axl, with Slash, had always controlled most of the band's affairs. By this time Axl has full control. GN'R began work on a new album of original material, drawing from a Geffen advance thought to be around $10 million - Madonna kind of money."

Source: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=32

I don't think Axl has any money problems.

[Rocket_queen125]

Why does everyone assume Axl is the best buisness man.  What has Axl done to prove that he's such a good buisness man other than cancelling tours, and not showing up to shows?

Well he did pull of making the 10 grossing tours for 2002 didnt he hmm..........  

[Will]

Well he did pull of making the 10 grossing tours for 2002 didnt he hmm..........  

No, GN'R was #75:

January 4th, 2003
GN'R @ number 75 on Pollstar's 2002 Top 100 Tours
 
According to Pollstar, GN'R's North American tour was at number 75 on the top 100 tours of 2002. The tour grossed $6.5 million in ticket sales.
At number one was Paul McCartney whose tour grossed $103.3 million in ticket sales, The Rolling Stones were at number two ($87.9 million) and Cher at number three ($73.6 million).

Here's the info on GN'R's tour:

Rk Grs  Artist Avg. Ticket Price Avg. Tickets  Total Tickets Avg. Gross City / Shows  Agency
                 
75  6.5 Guns N' Roses 46.72 8,660 138,564 404,611 16/16 Creative Artists Agency


Source: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=620

[John Daniels]

and on a side note - Axl was known to NOT be part of the after show parties for most of the latter part of their touring.  The article that was just posted today here the guy says Axl was kind of in his own world...  that it was Slash & Duff who were the big party guys.  So so much for Axl blowing "theband's money" on partying.

"We also had limos on-call 24 hours and burgers at the Trump Tower cost $35. The first night we played the Giants Stadium, there was one pinball machine and a few bottles of booze backstage, Axl came in and said, 'This isn't the Rolling Stones!' So the next night there's a full casino, tons of lobster and champagne was flowing everywhere."

 -Matt Sorum-


I think Axl had everything to do with the huge partying costs.
and remember the radio interview 2002 with Axl where he talks about these party themes they had at every city.

[John Daniels]

No, GN'R was #75:

January 4th, 2003
GN'R @ number 75 on Pollstar's 2002 Top 100 Tours
 
According to Pollstar, GN'R's North American tour was at number 75 on the top 100 tours of 2002. The tour grossed $6.5 million in ticket sales.
At number one was Paul McCartney whose tour grossed $103.3 million in ticket sales, The Rolling Stones were at number two ($87.9 million) and Cher at number three ($73.6 million).

Here's the info on GN'R's tour:

Rk Grs  Artist Avg. Ticket Price Avg. Tickets  Total Tickets Avg. Gross City / Shows  Agency
                 
75  6.5 Guns N' Roses 46.72 8,660 138,564 404,611 16/16 Creative Artists Agency


Source: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=620

but I guess the cancelled mini tour costed pretty much for Axl..

[Izzy]

and on a side note - Axl was known to NOT be part of the after show parties for most of the latter part of their touring.  The article that was just posted today here the guy says Axl was kind of in his own world...  that it was Slash & Duff who were the big party guys.  So so much for Axl blowing "theband's money" on partying.

"We also had limos on-call 24 hours and burgers at the Trump Tower cost $35. The first night we played the Giants Stadium, there was one pinball machine and a few bottles of booze backstage, Axl came in and said, 'This isn't the Rolling Stones!' So the next night there's a full casino, tons of lobster and champagne was flowing everywhere."

 -Matt Sorum-


I think Axl had everything to do with the huge partying costs.
and remember the radio interview 2002 with Axl where he talks about these party themes they had at every city.

The old band love to complain - money is there to be spent, they have had the rest of their lives to become boring old men.....

[Dizzy]

I think Axl had everything to do with the huge partying costs.
and remember the radio interview 2002 with Axl where he talks about these party themes they had at every city.

Yeah, Axl was very much a part of the partying during the UYI days.  The guys from Faith No More (one of their opening acts) complained about the excess.

Opening for them was an absurd situation for a band like Faith No More.  Their scene was about excess, excess, excess.  There were more strippers than road crew.  We weren't into that type of male bonding.  The only time I saw their show was when we were reprimanded for laughing about the absurdity of the touring environment in the press and told that we'd have to apologize to Axl or leave the tour.  We made an attempt to explain where we were coming from, but I think it went over Axl's head because as sort of a peace offering, Axl brought us to a trailer backstage where two naked women strippers were having sex.

--Roddy Bottum, former Faith No More keyboardist
Spin magazine, July 1999

[Doc Emmett Brown]

i don't judge anyway.. cuz we don't know the whole picuture (we never do)

but i like the impression Axl has made over the years

I'm glad you state that it is your own opinion concerning Axl & Slash's affairs, because we all have our own opinions.

In the 2002 radio interview, the interviewer spoke to Axl about the UYI wild extragavant parties, and he mentioned that he saw Axl walk by him, and get into a hot tub with a bunch of hot chicks...  So he certainly made an appearance at those parties.

IMO, I dont think any of Gunners have $$ problems, but is it that surprising to hear them badmouth each other?  Slash & Axl arent exactly buddies now, are they?

In terms of the impression that Axl has created over the years, I'm afraid that most people think negatively of it.  Sad but true.

Also, let's not be so quick to easily believe some trash talk about Slash

[SuicideUZI]

im not sure which year the interview was but axl said in an interview once something along the lines of "GNR is a billion dollar business, a quarter of which i own"

slash has said on the howard stern show that axl was good at investing his money and was never strung out on drugs which is where a lot of money from most other rockstars go to

courtney love has said before that she is jealous of axl's deal with the record label about how much he gets, and that compared to today his deal is "unheard of"

GNR sells 500,000 cd's in the USA every year

in other words, axl isnt in debt and never will be