Why can't Axl let this album go?

[axlsalinger]

As information comes in, it seems more and more apparent that Axl simply cannot declare the end of major combat operations: he's unable to announce that Chinese Democracy is complete, and to move forward.

How anyone can blame the record company for getting pissed off at this point is beyond me. As several people have mentioned, the Beatles ENTIRE CAREER (from their first meeting with George Martin in early '63 to Paul announcing he had left the group in 1970) was shorter than the recording of this album.

What a rip-off for the fans and for this amazing group of musicians that Axl put together, and then left to rot.

As proof I offer you Axl's own words from nearly 2 years ago:

AUGUST 14, 2002: Axl Rose interview for www.gnronline.com

"There are a lot of new songs that were just done in the last year that we feel that ?okay, well that bumps a lot of stuff off the previous list but it's time to stop that now and wrap up the baby. It feels right, the timing, and a lot of things. We?ve sorted it down to what songs are on the record. What the sequence of the songs is. The album cover art is ready.

This thing is starting now and much like Use Your Illusions that went for two and a half years, this thing is going to go off and on for the next two or three years and we?ll see how it goes."

I have no doubt that the band must have some fantastic and amazing songs in the can. Probably several albums worth. So many reports (Rolling Stone, Moby, Brian May, Zakk Wylde, and so on and so on and so on) confirming this.

Why can't Axl Rose let this album go?

[just_one]

cause axl is an asshole that why!!!

[Funeral]

My feeling is it's insecurity.  Axl's insecurity is a double edged sword.  One on hand, it pushes him to always improve on the music he has.  Which is why so many GnR tunes are timeless.  On the other hand, we may never get to hear what he has because he's never truelly satisfied.  

I beleive that when Axl finally comes to grip with his own insecurities, we will get Chinese Democracy... in the meantime, it gives us something to talk about on the HTGTH message board


-F

[axlsalinger]

it may very well be insecurity, but how can you be insecure about something that is virtually guaranteed to be amazing? (based on every report we have heard.)

He made it sound (in 2002) like the album had essentially been done, and then they had recorded a number of new tracks that knocked some of the oldies off the tracklist. This made sense back then, because the final lineup (with Bucket, Fortus, et al) hadn't necessarily been around for the earlier incarnation of the record.

But at this point, there are no more excuses. This is why I think it makes total sense for the record company to turn the thumbscrews on our Uncle Axl. These perpetual 'finishing touches' are driving everyone crazy!

one last question: why did Dizzy say the label has the album if this is not the case??!!

[cineater]

Did I miss something?  Who said the label didn't have the album?

[Crowebar]

Because it's Axl's baby that's why.

Because of that, he'll release it when he wants to.

Not when you or I or anybody else wants it to be released.

I think it will be out this year so, calm the fuck down.

Everybody should just get off Axls back and relax a bit.

[Funeral]

I think it will be out this year so, calm the fuck down.

That's good advice.  Take it.


-F

[clockworkrose]

yeah, arguing and stressing out about it isn't going to make axl release it any sooner, so....let's just relax and go with the flow people.  lol.  I know, I'm lame.    

[St.heathen]

A possiblity/ an excuse, whatever lol   COuld be that they have been working on the 3 mentioned Albums.  Maybe there is a running concept to the albums, a thread which he as an artist wants to get right.  

I'm sure just a little more dialect with fans, would have kept things calm and people wouldn't be pissed off and demanding shit.....Wonder if he realises it could be that simple.  

[Izzy]

I would rather have an album that took 20 years to make but was perfection from start to finish than one album every 6 months.

So fuckin what if it has taken awhile? Rome wasn't built in a day

When we hear this album we can say whether it was a waste of time - but at the moment all we know is Axl and friends are making the greatest rock album in history

[jet]

Because it's Axl's baby that's why.

Because of that, he'll release it when he wants to.

Not when you or I or anybody else wants it to be released.

I think it will be out this year so, calm the fuck down.

Everybody should just get off Axls back and relax a bit.

Maybe it's better to forget about him? Careful, Axl, we still love you.

[sandman]

because he is insane, and insecure.

maybe axl will release it when he's in his 60's!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/21/wilson.smile/index.html

[younggunner]

In a nutshell:
Its the defining moment in his career

[providman]

Because, like his toadys on this board who bow down to him, worship his every move, & defend him no matter what(like the doormats they are), deep down he's just a sad, pathetic, angry, disturbed person incapable of getting his shit together.

Alright, time for someone to slam Slash. Or Metallica. Or Lincoln Park. Or Bon Jovi. Or anyone who's achieved anything over the last 12 years.

Oh, I forgot. Everyone "betrayed" him when they left GnR. His bullshit actions are totally justified.

[anarchy]

IMO, it's not Axl holding it up. It's something legal.

[Crowebar]

IMO, it's not Axl holding it up. It's something legal.

I agree with anarchy and feel the same way as you dude. [headbanger]

[TyRod Tulip]

Only one reason makes sense for why Axl won't let the album go....the material just isn't that good.  And he doesn't want to do anything to tarnish the image that GNR (while completely disfunctional) at least put out quality music.  The stuff on the album may not measure up to UYI and AFD so he is scared to release it.
I know the songs I've heard so far don't match up to UYI and AFD.

/Tulip

[TyRod Tulip]

IMO, it's not Axl holding it up. It's something legal.

So you don't think Axl has had anything to do with the delay of like 4 years since Axlsaid he was wrapping this up?  Let me get this right.....you actually believe that the record company is behind the delay and not Axl?

Incredible.  Precious, really.

/Tulip

[war1981]

hey tulip you dont think the blues, maddy, and chinese dem match up to anything on AFD or UYI's? how can you say that.  I think personally the Blues will be a huge hit and be played out on all popular radio stations the same with maddy.  

[Gunner80]

I believe he's trying to make the first perfect rock record.