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Quote from: SLCPUNK on February 20, 2004, 02:04:12 PM
Well not to be a smart ass (really I'm not), but how are they planning the release but you can't comment on the status of CD? They are planning something that may or may not be done?
What did Dizzy say on the radio a few weeks back?
It's just down to the questions that have been answered by management. With regard to planning, there has been a positive response, so I know that the planning is going on at present. However, with regard to the status of CD, there hasn't been a response since last October, when gnr were still doing 'final touches' to the record. Annoying eh
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Re:The GH story, the IRS connection, the possible future..
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Mysteron, I'm curious if you've ever caught wind of management's confidence in the new record. Are they pretty sure it will do well? Also, have you personally heard any of the new stuff or heard descriptions of it? Sorry if you've answered these questions already.
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Re:The GH story, the IRS connection, the possible future..
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Quote from: Johnnyblood on February 20, 2004, 04:53:45 PM
Mysteron, I'm curious if you've ever caught wind of management's confidence in the new record. Are they pretty sure it will do well? Also, have you personally heard any of the new stuff or heard descriptions of it? Sorry if you've answered these questions already.
They are extremely confident, and the record is supposed to be excellent
I've never heard anything though
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Quote from: Mysteron on February 20, 2004, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: Johnnyblood on February 20, 2004, 04:53:45 PM
Mysteron, I'm curious if you've ever caught wind of management's confidence in the new record. Are they pretty sure it will do well? Also, have you personally heard any of the new stuff or heard descriptions of it? Sorry if you've answered these questions already.
They are extremely confident, and the record is supposed to be excellent
I've never heard anything though
It's shit like this that keeps my excited!
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February 20, 2004, 05:14:57 PM »
The only way i can see the label putting pressure on Axl with this is for them to put out the GH so that it fulfills some minimum album requirement in their contract
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the label would then be in a position to drop them, knowing that legally they had fulfilled their contract and there would be no recourse on Axl's part to sue. It would seriously be a cutting of losses but who knows how far along this project is.
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thanks for posting that dark. whether it is a substantialy correct prediction of what is yet to happen in the GnR world remains to be seen. i guess AFD and UYI 1&2 will hold me over for at least 8 more weeks...
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Quote from: dave_guns on February 20, 2004, 03:29:15 PM
also, i have heard of labels leaking tracks onto p2p networks in order to create some buzz. the most recent one i know of was when evanescene's label leaked theirr whole album onto kazaa. the trick was they put glitches in all the songs, every 10 seconds or so. so if you wanted the songs glitch free you had to go out and buy the disc.
I don't think it's done to create a buzz. It's done to annoy the downloaders to the point where they go and buy the albums.
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Quote from: Mysteron on February 20, 2004, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: Johnnyblood on February 20, 2004, 04:53:45 PM
Mysteron, I'm curious if you've ever caught wind of management's confidence in the new record. Are they pretty sure it will do well? Also, have you personally heard any of the new stuff or heard descriptions of it? Sorry if you've answered these questions already.
They are extremely confident, and the record is supposed to be excellent
I've never heard anything though
So this quote from Johan is not necessarily something to worry about:
Quote from: Johan on January 24, 2004, 12:03:55 PM
I cannot name my source but he?s high ranked Universal boss.
He mentioned that if CD was such a great record it would have been relased years ago.
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Alright, let me see if I have this right (and to sum it up for the people who dont feel like reading through the past 5 pages).
We know about as much as we knew yesterday right? Okay cool.
The Greatest Hits Album is going to be released next month. An OFFICIAL Statement on this has been made. Other than, there's nothing else to see here.
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Quote from: darknemus on February 20, 2004, 03:05:32 PM
Mysteron, you say 'management are planning the release' - do you refer, specifically, to Sanctuary?
Let me see if I can phrase this question a bit more directly (thanks to someone who suggested this to me earlier, and it fits as well as anything else in the crazy GNR world)
Is it possible that Sanctuary might be trying to do an 'independent' release of CD - as in, not on the Interscope label? And if thats possible, would it explain some of the what is seemingly 'not wanting to play ball' info coming from Interscopes side really being an issue of perception? As in, they just want their money for GH and the DVDs and have cut some sort of deal with the band so that they dont incur the costs of promoting / marketing / distributing CD?
Hope that wasn't too convoluted sounding.
-darknemus
Before anyone takes dark to task on this one, it was I who "suggested" it to him. And not because I heard anything from anyone. It was my own creation based on nothing more than my vivid imagination, and a couple of Mysteron's older posts (to be specific, there was a rumor that GnR was going to get dropped from the label or release CD independantly, and Mysteron commented that it wasn't so odd to see that, and how it could be done.....but not that it WOULD be done that way. He was, I suspect, just explaining a "what if" scenario).
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so dark's thread is all false then?
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Quote from: Johnnyblood on February 20, 2004, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: Mysteron on February 20, 2004, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: Johnnyblood on February 20, 2004, 04:53:45 PM
Mysteron, I'm curious if you've ever caught wind of management's confidence in the new record. Are they pretty sure it will do well? Also, have you personally heard any of the new stuff or heard descriptions of it? Sorry if you've answered these questions already.
They are extremely confident, and the record is supposed to be excellent
I've never heard anything though
So this quote from Johan is not necessarily something to worry about:
Quote from: Johan on January 24, 2004, 12:03:55 PM
I cannot name my source but he?s high ranked Universal boss.
He mentioned that if CD was such a great record it would have been relased years ago.
I have no reason to believe that CD won't be good. I mean I think we all can agree that Madagascar, the Blues, Rhiad and CD are all good songs. Even these songs are CD's strongest (which I doubt) theses songs alone make it well worth buying
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hi guys. just to pipe in again from what i heard is that Yes, CD IS done. Handed over, don't know. But done, apparently yes.
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really?
umm, this is huge news if true.
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vector, look for the thread i started yesterday... there is only one.
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I t hink dark is full of shit, that is just my two cents
im sick of posts like this
look what dark is saying is bullshit
id believe dizzys wife over dark anyday
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Quote from: dave-gnfnr2k on February 21, 2004, 12:15:13 AM
I t hink dark is full of shit, that is just my two cents
im sick of posts like this
look what dark is saying is bullshit
id believe dizzys wife over dark anyday
Purely speaking from our shared interest as fans, I hope you're right and that I'm "full of shit" - of course.. I am only relaying that what's been told to me - but it definitely has the potential to be as wrong as anything else in life.
Maybe you're sick of posts like this because reality scares you. If you take a step back and look at everything, and I mean the BIG PICTURE - not what our deluded fanboy / fangirl minds lead us to believe - there is something seriously wrong with not hearing from Axl for almost 15 months now. There is something that's definitely not kosher about a concert that's booked but that no one can seem to confirm. There is DEFINITELY something wrong with a Greatest Hits album being scheduled, dropped, and now rescheduled.
So, disregarding EVERYTHING I've posted - those facts remain. Now you take a look at them for a second with an objective eye and you tell me that everything appears to be hunky dory in GNR town.
Dave - you know what, I sure as hell hope I'm wrong. I sure as hell hope that GH is just some big ruse for CD's release - or that Rio IV is just the beginning of a massive tour undertaking - I really, really do. I'd love a perfect world where the red headed recluse flies into Philly, apologizes, and holds a free concert there. Where he grants open interviews to radio jocks without freaking on them if they play the "Slash is in my ass, that's where Slash is" bit from Leeds.. Where he actually lets the music speak for itself and drops the primadonna act.
Axl is like the Veruca Salt (The Willy Wonka character - not the band) of the music industry. He thinks if he stomps his foot enough and yells and screams, people will listen. Sorry, but the extreme clout that Mr. Rose carried in the past doesn't seem to hold much water with the 'money people' right now. So you go right on believing what you want to believe. I'll just sit here and continue to hope that Axl realizes that every day that passes brings him one step closer to a horrid self-fulfilling prophecy of being, truly, a has-been.
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things have been ominous since december 2002. axl sure does make it hard to like him.
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