What Weiland Brings To Velvet Revolver...

[Booker Floyd]

Aside from the obvious - the remarkable stage presence, rock n' roll attitude, etc. - Weiland has a true gift for vocal melodies.  Just go and listen to virtually any Sone Temple Pilots song.  His melodies and hooks are, for lack of a better word, perfect.  

Listen to "Plush".  "Lady Picture Show".  "Big Empty".  "Interstate Love Song".  Anything.  Those hooks are unforgettable and more than compensate for sometimes clumsy or pretentious lyrics.  

Thats not even speaking on his versatility.  He can make indelible melodies and hooks for the hardest rock track ("Sex Type Thing") to the softest ballad ("Sour Girl," "Lady Picture Show") to the most innocuous pop song ("Days Of The Week") and everything in between.  To me, this is the the most vital asset a singer/songwriter can posess, right alongside their voice.  Weiland has a great voice, and despite popular belief its quite unique.  Early in his career he recieved a lot of criticism for similarities to Eddie Veddar and Layne Staley, but in fairness a lot of that can be credited to having naturally similar ranges and doing a similar style of music.  But for the most part, Scott has grown out of the sonorous growl of Core and developed a strong individual vocal style.  

His lyrics have also improved, and hes more often hit than miss.  And even when his lyrics do falter, rarely do they venture into dullness.  They might sometimes stumble into pretension or puzzlement, but its that very abstract nature that always keep them interesting at the very least.  And when Weiland does hit, he really hits ("You Got No Right," "Interstate Love Song," "Sour Girl").  In these songs, the words just feel right.  Theyre not just serviceble; they, like his vocals, fit perfectly.

Its for these reasons (and not just these reasons, theyre the tip of the iceberg really) that I find the general disrespect for Stone Temple Pilots among critics and music snobs in general to be almost infuriating.  Between that and Scotts addiction, STP has one of the most unfortunate legacies of the last two decades great rock bands.  Because thats just what they are - one of the best hard rock bands of the last 20 years...but sadly, theyll never get the respect they deserve.  

And neither will Weiland.  Hes arguably one of the best frontmen of the 90s, and easily one of todays best (the best in my opinion).  Hopefully, Velvet Revolver will be his redemption and the critics will come around and finally realize just how good this guy really is.  

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Flashback to 1992:

I'm watching the STP video for 'Plush' on MTV in a major store, and some people walk past me and say "Ugh - STP are Pearl Jam wannabes"...
Which was sad b/c 'Plush' is still one of my favorite songs even today!

But you know what?  This time around (assuming he gets his drug problem under control), I think the stage is set for him to get the respect he deserves. He's been through a lot, and VR seems to be a "fucking real band"

From the bootleg audio/video I've heard, it seems Weiland can easily sing a hard rocker like Set Me Free with the right attitude, and easily shift gear into a mellow song like You Got No Right.  His voice is deep and fluid.

- slightly off-topic:

Slash, Duff, and Matt havent gotten too much respect by the media either largely because of the bloated version of GNR.  Heck, RS didnt even put Slash in their Top 500 Guitarists.  So hopefully VR is as good for them as it is for Weiland.

[jet]

Seems like VR are saving his f*king life

[starchild_666]

man Weiland is perfect at singing... just listen to acoustic Plush - it's briliant!

[Top-Hatted One]

I agree, Plush(acoustic) is amazing!

it's ultimately what made me a Scott and stp fan.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

I also like 'Creep' - his voice has a lot of emotion in that song.

Take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal.

I'm sure it means different things to different people, but the sorrow in his voice really hits home.

[Izzy]

What he brings?

How about the drugs in sex, drugs and rock n roll

[Ganja4Life]

I also like 'Creep' - his voice has a lot of emotion in that song.

Take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal.

I'm sure it means different things to different people, but the sorrow in his voice really hits home.

"take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal,i like to steal" is from half the man I used to be by Nirvana..I dont know what your talking about lol

[Booker Floyd]

"take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal,i like to steal" is from half the man I used to be by Nirvana..I dont know what your talking about lol

No, its not.  Its "Creep" by Stone Temple Pilots.

[RTK]

- slightly off-topic:

Slash, Duff, and Matt havent gotten too much respect by the media either largely because of the bloated version of GNR.  Heck, RS didnt even put Slash in their Top 500 Guitarists.  So hopefully VR is as good for them as it is for Weiland.

Top 100 guitarists.

I feel that Weiland's voice is on the rebound in terms of range and the next VR record will definitely show it. 
And yeah his lyircs can be questionable and confusing sometimes, but id rather them than some teenage angst shit thats seemingly everywhere in rock now.

[GNFNR-UK]

I agree 100% with the original post 
Stone Temple Pilots are one of the most underated rock bands ever. They aremy fav band and have been for many years, not only for Scott's amazing vocal melodies and hooks but also for the beautiful music by the Deleo brothers (2 very underated musicians). The greatest song they ever recorded in my opinion is 'Atlanta' from their No. 4 album, if you haven't heard it you NEED to, simply beautiful.

[Ali]

I have to disagree with a lot of what you said.  I don't think that Weiland's vocal melodies are "perfect".  I think they're good, especially on Libertad, but not perfect.  His lyrics are not good.  They have never been his strong suit.  What you call abstract, I call non-sensical.  As far as frontmen go, he was one of the better frontmen of the 90's, but I'd put him behind Chris Cornell, Layne Staley and Eddie Vedder.  Vocally, he stands up to Eddie Vedder, but he has nowhere near the vocal prowess of Layne Staley or Chris Cornell.  I have studied singing for a long time, and let me tell you, the kind of of vocal control that Layne Staley had is incomparable.  He's one of the better frontmen now, but the best for me is still Axl Rose.  To me, Axl's vocal melodies are truly perfect for the songs he sings over.  Not only that, he's a far superior lyricist and as far as stage presence, Weiland is great, but still not better than Axl.

What Weiland brings to VR is great stage presence and a finely crafted vocal instrument that is capable of some very appealing tones, along with some quite good melody lines.

Ali

[Ganja4Life]

"take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal,i like to steal" is from half the man I used to be by Nirvana..I dont know what your talking about lol

No, its not.? Its "Creep" by Stone Temple Pilots.

just looked up the lyrics.. I typed in half the man i used to be lyrics n it came up as half the man i used to be by nirvana and creep by stone temple pilots..
  I've heard nirvana sing it..never knew it was an stp song lol

[Booker Floyd]

  I've heard nirvana sing it.

No, you havent.

[CheapJon]

? I've heard nirvana sing it.

No, you havent.

I googled it.. and I got "Take time with a wounded hand -- Cause it likes to heal" in the nirvana song Half The Man I Used To Be

and "Take time with a wounded hand 'Cause it likes to heal " from the STP song Creep..

weird thing is that they have exactly the same lyrics  someone wikipedia it

[Dead N' Bloated]

"take time with a wounded hand cause it likes to heal,i like to steal" is from half the man I used to be by Nirvana..I dont know what your talking about lol

No, its not.? Its "Creep" by Stone Temple Pilots.

just looked up the lyrics.. I typed in half the man i used to be lyrics n it came up as half the man i used to be by nirvana and creep by stone temple pilots..
? I've heard nirvana sing it..never knew it was an stp song lol

Maybe your thinking of Negative Creep


 

[stolat]

Cos if its in Wikipedia then it will be true!

[DeN]

What Weiland Brings To Velvet Revolver...


"a megaphone"

[CheapJon]

Cos if its in Wikipedia then it will be true!

no but if something was mentioned on wikipedia it could be true.. but i searched through all nirvanas albums and couldn't find a single song called "half the man I used to be "

[Booker Floyd]

no but if something was mentioned on wikipedia it could be true.. but i searched through all nirvanas albums and couldn't find a single song called "half the man I used to be "

There is no such thing.  It was written and performed by Stone Temple Pilots on their 1992 album Core.  Nirvana has absolutely nothing to do with it.  Somebody in the band might have commented on it in an interview or two after its release, but thats it.  The attribution to Nirvana has been perpetuated on the internet by people who dont know better.