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« Reply #180 on: February 15, 2004, 12:11:52 AM »

yes, i agree with Irish Fecker. does the management even know what they are doing?? if there was a tour being planned surely more dates would've been announced by now, and not just the RIR festival. is there even a cd in the works? everything i thought was suppose to happen regarding chinese democracy didn't happen at all. i think i'm not the only one questining Axl's motives by now. common' a tour with no cd, 3 years doing a few shows and nothing. there isn't a word from Axl, there isn't a word from the band. this sounds really bad. and bottom line i think this rir 2001 all over again. wich means same old set list, nothing new, no cd, no nothing.

the question is. IS There a cd? and if so, are they even planning on releasing it? i'm a die hard Axl fan. but this is getting too much. if there's no band and no cd, then just say it and let us get over with it.

Well, I can't doing anything unfortunately

But if you look at things logically, if gnr are going to be touring this summer, and releasing an album...then it will have to be announced quite soon - late March/early April latest.....so time will answer your question anyway

once again it changes. Two weeks ago you said that you expected some news and not the gh. Now your s aying late march/early april. I've heard this before. Things change you will say. but what changed? It's become a never ending cycle. Yeah let's look at things logically shall we? Hmm... logically, you don't go on a mini-tour, and a cancelled north american tour without something to promote. with sayings like chinese democracy starts now. i don't think now means 3 and a half years later. How many more now's and soons or things change are we gonna hear.
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« Reply #181 on: February 15, 2004, 01:28:46 AM »

u people are becoming derranged, chill out

u people act like a greatest hits is like a regular release

look there will be no fuckin singles, nothing like that

greatest hits will be on the charts for maybe 3 weeks if that then its gone

its a precursor for chinese democracy so fuckin jump up and down and celebrate

the greatest hits is a way to reintroduce gnr to the mass population

u people get a grip chinese democracy is fuckin comin and the greatest hits proves it!
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« Reply #182 on: February 15, 2004, 01:34:23 AM »

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Its not the end of the world, i undertsand that but how does a gh reintroduce or benefit this lineup? It has nothing to do with them. Gnr doesnt need an introduction. what they need is to release the single,video,album and go on tour. thats what they need to do.
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« Reply #183 on: February 15, 2004, 01:41:45 AM »

look they have to do a greatest hits if not now later on

its best to get it out of the way before new gnr hits big that way the old doesnt take away from the new

right now the new hasnt done shit so the greatest hits wont take away from their success if they do a greatest hits after c.d. or the album after that it will detract from the new bands success

the album will disappear quickly without much attention and it wont matter anyway

i think if interscope was doing it for money they wouldve released it years ago

but like i said not everyone remembers guns n roses, a greatest hits would remind some people how awesome this band was and is and who knows the greatest hits may have new band versions of most if not all the songs

didnt tommy say they were rehearsing illusion stuff? maybe they recorded them and we will get the new bands appetite versions

look at the possibilities

if its new band versions of the old songs u damn right ill buy it
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« Reply #184 on: February 15, 2004, 02:08:39 AM »

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Oh my god I agree completely with youngunner....p.s are you sure you and ISOA arent one in the same cos you both spell the same words fyunny...whoops funny:)

As for Mysteron.....dunno dont care, just someone with no sources once again.  As Axe says a 'little person on a power trip', probably gets pushed around by his GF if he has ever had one, has no real life etc and gets to feel a sense of worth by assuming a mantle of anonymous respect from posters due to his 'inside knowledge' despite the fact that noone with inside knowledge would be so bored as to post 100's of (vague) posts in a dorky internet chatroom. Truly sad.

Anyway, it shouldnt be up to us to stop this. Axl has had MORE than enough time to release an album, either he releases it, therefore cancelling GH or he doesn't, in which case GNR is dead and the record company has every right to milk the fucker.

 Axl and his group are MUSICIANS and ARTISTS so they should let go of the ego and legal crap, the sooner they remember this the better. Any band that collectivly cant write and record an album that they feel confident in with the help of god knows how much money and producers in 5-8 yrs has to start facing some facts regarding there actual ability, versus pie in the sky dreams of delusions of grandeur.


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« Reply #185 on: February 15, 2004, 04:52:56 AM »

My opinion is that Mysteron is a phony hack with a STOOOOPID hobby.  Whats the joy in blowing smoke up peoples' asses on an Internet forum?  I think I'd rather watch mold grow inside a toilet bowl.

Sorry people....just sick and tired of non-sourced rumors from people who think you should give credibility to what they say since they have X number of posts on here.  Weirdos have all different modes of operation....some hit hard and fast with the "20 Post Wonder" approach....and some draw it out real long...accumulate a good "reputation" on the board and then give little bits and pieces of bullshit...laying it on just light enough to keep everyone from writing them off as a phony.  

There are liars all over the Internet....have any of you guys ever checked out any other bands' fanboards?  This kinda shit happens all the time...its nothing unique to this forum.  Apparently, some "fans" of bands get some sort of perverse thrill from joining a forum and pretending that they have inside sources to the band.  I guess its their way to feel "closer" to their heroes, I don't know.  Or, as I said....they're just people who have a godawful talent for choosing hobbies.  

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« Reply #186 on: February 15, 2004, 05:08:15 AM »

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I very much stand by that. It's the only, and I mean only deal that makes sense. And that would toss like everything because if the GH CD is a way of the label to "check us out" and see just how big GNR is, it wont be a huge idea to boycott it. As I said earlier TNT did this as apart of their comeback tour and it worked really well. The only difference is that they toured with the GH CD released, while Axl did not.

If this is the case we need to take a way another approach, but rather promote the damn thing, even though the only thing the CD got going for itself is it's neat album cover.
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« Reply #187 on: February 15, 2004, 08:31:57 AM »

I find it really, and I mean REALLY, stupid that some people come here and post bullshit about Mysteron.

The guy has been proven right more than 10 times.

That's not luck. It wasn't like the VMA's where everyone could predict that...

It was stuff that only he could come up with first.

I'm sure he doesn't need me to defend him. But I'd rather have Mysteron on this board than some bunch of "fans" who just write to bash other posters.
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« Reply #188 on: February 15, 2004, 09:22:32 AM »

They're probably jealous because he has "real" info AG, instead of being like the imposters that come and post.  Hang in there Mysteron!

Now would everyone like to get back on the topic of the Greatest Hits cd or should we lock the thread?
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« Reply #189 on: February 15, 2004, 09:57:43 AM »

Well, right now I'm burning my own Greatest Hits cd, just to get used to the tracklist...
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« Reply #190 on: February 15, 2004, 11:41:45 AM »

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Good luck with that  Grin
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« Reply #191 on: February 15, 2004, 11:49:06 AM »

Why get it out of the way now when you can release a monster gh cd down the road.
The cd would consist of all the old classics with whatver new classics there are. It could be a double cd. Insstead you want a shitty tracklist representing gnr best material?

Again, im sure its not the end of the world but i think it would have been better if they held it back. Its just gonna bring more negativity towards gnr from the media.  If the new material is great then it wont matter but its ashame cause i want people to see how talented this band is.

Whatver. you can all go put a positive spin on a gh release but im not. its gay. no point. i rather wait another 5 years for cd then have a gh release.
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« Reply #192 on: February 15, 2004, 12:32:58 PM »

Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but as far as I know GN'T (meaning the old band) still owes Universal a Greatest Hits album. So it makes sense to put it out now instead of waiting until CD is released, right?

Mysteron, anyone, can you confirm this?


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« Reply #193 on: February 15, 2004, 01:17:09 PM »

there are 5 cover songs on this GH; FIVE!

no offense but that's kinda pathetic. i'm as big a fan as any but we need some new music not this mess.
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« Reply #194 on: February 15, 2004, 01:46:45 PM »

Mysteron, here's something that just strikes me a bit odd:

The other day when you began this thread, you expressed a fear of the ramifications a GH might possibly have on the release of CD.  You questioned why Universal would continue with this charade, and you politely inquired as to whether any of us would lend a hand in letting Universal know how a GH might be viewed by the GNR fanbase...Accepted

After a few days, it's pretty evident that you've taken a more relaxed stance towards GHcalling it, in fact, a "small fish in a big pond" and a "small problem in a big world."  My question is, what info or reassurances, if any, have you received in the past few days to indicate that a GH will not derail CD?  I have enough respect for your position not to inquire about the 8 week window, but something must've changed....

Joe

I've given you some food for thought, and a person to air your views to. It's not a cause for hysteria though. Some people are a bit too hyper
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« Reply #195 on: February 15, 2004, 01:49:52 PM »

My opinion is that Mysteron is a phony hack with a STOOOOPID hobby.  Whats the joy in blowing smoke up peoples' asses on an Internet forum?  I think I'd rather watch mold grow inside a toilet bowl.

Sorry people....just sick and tired of non-sourced rumors from people who think you should give credibility to what they say since they have X number of posts on here.  Weirdos have all different modes of operation....some hit hard and fast with the "20 Post Wonder" approach....and some draw it out real long...accumulate a good "reputation" on the board and then give little bits and pieces of bullshit...laying it on just light enough to keep everyone from writing them off as a phony.  

There are liars all over the Internet....have any of you guys ever checked out any other bands' fanboards?  This kinda shit happens all the time...its nothing unique to this forum.  Apparently, some "fans" of bands get some sort of perverse thrill from joining a forum and pretending that they have inside sources to the band.  I guess its their way to feel "closer" to their heroes, I don't know.  Or, as I said....they're just people who have a godawful talent for choosing hobbies.  

Go ahead, punk....lets here the "That time of the month?" comment already.   hihi


Firstly, I do normally provide proof or a source

Secondly, your opinions are fine, but please post them in the right area
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« Reply #196 on: February 15, 2004, 02:48:03 PM »

there is no reason to insult mysteron. He's given us some valuable information and best of all hope. I don't in any way promulgate overrelying on his or any unofficial information; i think we should all welcome his role here but keep one foot in reality as well.

Also, we cannot run to him for every rumor b/c if he does indeed have sources within gnr, going to the well too many times may dry it up. let mysteron find out what he does in his own time.
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« Reply #197 on: February 15, 2004, 04:59:53 PM »

With all the covers and most of there  hit singles....i think it would make more sence calling it Singles or something.....there cover songs were hit singles so it makes more sence to me.. beer
But the timing sucks.........Give me CD.. ok
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« Reply #198 on: February 16, 2004, 09:18:46 AM »

So i am guessing that everyone who is moaning about there being so many covers - potentially - on a GH.  Have all seen GNR live many times and actually stand still during LALD and HD??

The fact is GN'R  made these songs their own, LALD is far superior than The Wings version.  And even non GNR fans -as such- remember their version of Heavens door and sing along in Axl's style.  I have seen it myself in a few pubs.

Some bands make the cover versions  their own and GN'R have always done that  really well in my opinion.

And having seen GN'R perform LALD + HD live with my own eyes and ears, they are part of the whole GN'R Set list and vibe to-date.  

If they weren't listed to be on there, you would be moaning as to how these could have been left off....bo' selecta !

And Sympathy for the devil was the last Slash, Axl, Duff release. So how could that be left off really? it's a part of their history.
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« Reply #199 on: February 16, 2004, 09:23:53 AM »

To all the members of this board:  If you have all the songs on the new Greatest Hits album, DON"T BUY IT!!!!!  There is no need to waste money on this CD if you already own all the songs.  The only CD from GNR I will be buying (and this remains to be seen) is Chinese Democracy.
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