Stopping the Greatest Hits album

[estranged.1098]

Oh, and I don't know why everyone feels so sorry for Universal and how they must profit because of all the money they spent on Chinese Democracy. If they spent money on they expect to get it back when it's released, and I'm sure they will. It's ridiculous to think they will not get that on CD alone, unless the album is big flop.

[misterID]

Universal can kiss my ass

They put out over priced CD's that cost under a dollar to make and sell it for almost 20 bucks, and they regularly screw artists over and then throw them away. If Axl is sticking it to those bloodsuckers I say GREAT!

What gets me is releasing it against the artists wishes, and it may start a battle between the band and the label.

[Falcon]

What gets me is releasing it against the artists wishes, and it may start a battle between the band and the label.

It happens all the time, mostly when a band is calling it quits or when the label sees/thinks a band has reached a pont of diminishing returns.  

In this case, GNR (with no light at the end of the tunnel in regards to CD's release and the band still a working entity) is more of a liability than commodity.

It's just business...

[prairie]

Is it possible that they are using the GH title as a decoy, and it is actually CD?

[misterID]

Understood Falcon  

But still, from all the shady shit the labels do, I'm glad to see a rebel pissing them off. But I see their point of view.

Is it possible that they are using the GH title as a decoy, and it is actually CD?

Yes, it is possible. We can all hope...

[axls#2]

we talked about that scenario last time around. I think if that were true than axl would have been in cahoots with the label and it wouldn't have gotten cancelled the first time. Now this makes me think that after gn'r heard about the greatest hit's they were opposed and fought back, they maybe came to an agreement where either you give us chinese democracy by a certain date or we release the greatest hits. thats just what i think.

[badapple81]

Is it possible that they are using the GH title as a decoy, and it is actually CD?

I doubt Mysteron would have started this thread and activity if there was a chance it is a decoy.

[SLCPUNK]

The protests shouldnt be about Chinese Democracy. It should be about protesting a very pointless release. If everyone keeps emailing them and just telling them how dumb of an idea this is they might reconsider it or atleast delay it again.

I'm going to guess that half the people that email are going to be saying "release CD!" and not even mentioning the GH thing. Personally I was suprised that Mysteron gave that address out.

[Falcon]

Understood Falcon  

But still, from all the shady shit the labels do, I'm glad to see a rebel pissing them off. But I see their point of view.

It's a tough call, no doubt.

I actually see the label as the rebelious party in this scenario while the band/management hurry up and wait.

Two sides to every story, good drama..

[killingvector]

mailed mine.

A GH featuring the old band is an insult to the new members. They are owed more than residing in the shadow of the old guys for another record.

No GH, more dead air.

[AxlGunner]

well... i sent an email out, but mostly because i think that GH tracklist is god awful. horrendous.

that said, whether or not GH is released will not have a direct effect on chinese democracy. the only thing holding that up, frankly, has to be axl. i'm sure universal/interscope/geffen/whoever would love to release it as soon as possible, if only it was ready.

clearly, the GH album is a last resort for universal. a more effective way to make sure it isn't released is to start an email campaign to axl saying we want CD. any chance mysteron could hook us up with that email??  

[noizzynofuture]

I, like most of you, want CD to be released more than anything, but isn't a petition to GNR management just misplaced anger ?  

Does anyone truly believe that the record company or managment is holding the album back ?

Do you think the record company would release a GH's if CD was anywhere near a release date and possible damage the release of CD ?

I think the record company is sending us a clear message that CD is nowhere near ready for release and that it's in their best interest to recoup some of the enormous costs of CD.

I think the petition should be sent to the band/Axl that if we don't receive any news of a release by June 1st that we're all boycotting the band.

What the hell, that would be over a year and a half since we received any news.  Thats more than any fan should have to wait for an update.

PS - mysteron, if you're in contact with GNR management, then why don't you tell us allot more of what's going on with band ?  What would be the point in you holding info back ?  It's obvious that you're either holding allot back or you have no connections whatsoever.  I'd be intersted in knowing why you haven't told us allot more if you're in the know.

[AxlGunner]

mailed mine.

A GH featuring the old band is an insult to the new members. They are owed more than residing in the shadow of the old guys for another record.

No GH, more dead air.

it would only be an insult if they released some material of their own under the GNR name. As it stands now, all they've done is play 4 or 5 new songs live a few times and cover all the old band's stuff.

[providman]

Oh, poor, poor, Axl. The big bad record company is picking on poor little Axl. The same record company that gave him millions and millions of dollars and have been waiting for years and years. Lets all cry a river for Axl.

Or, Axl can stop the release of GH. It's really in his power. All he has to do is pay back the money he's been advanced - I'm sure Universal would make that deal IN A SECOND.

[AxlGunner]

I, like most of you, want CD to be released more than anything, but isn't a petition to GNR management just misplaced anger ?  

Does anyone truly believe that the record company or managment is holding the album back ?

Do you think the record company would release a GH's if CD was anywhere near a release date and possible damage the release of CD ?

I think the record company is sending us a clear message that CD is nowhere near ready for release and that it's in their best interest to recoup some of the enormous costs of CD.

I think the petition should be sent to the band/Axl that if we don't receive any news of a release by June 1st that we're all boycotting the band.

What the hell, that would be over a year and a half since we received any news.  Thats more than any fan should have to wait for an update.

PS - mysteron, if you're in contact with GNR management, then why don't you tell us allot more of what's going on with band ?  What would be the point in you holding info back ?  It's obvious that you're either holding allot back or you have no connections whatsoever.  I'd be intersted in knowing why you haven't told us allot more if you're in the know.

i agree wholeheartedly with everything you have to say, except for the PS part. there's obviously many reasons why someone who is really somewhat in the know would not want to reveal anything... which is probably the same reason people like dizzy and stinson don't really say much regarding CD.

that said... mysteron has also made it clear that the band/management won't say anything until they are ready... but maybe he can help direct us to someone who we can voice our complaints to who is somewhat close to the band/management, because frankly there are many many fans who are angry, and that just isn't right-- especially when you're gonna later count on these fans to buy your product. we don't want a date, we just want communication... its much easier to deal with a long wait that way.

[Crowebar]

Ten million dollars is a helluva a lot of money to make an album.

Especially when it's one that hasn't been released yet.


WTF is wrong with you AXL???

[SLCPUNK]

It seems that (on this board anyway) that Axl is not getting the same support/sympathy this time around as far as GH/no news on CD is concerned. What say you (guys)?

Do you sense more frustration from the core group here?

[Crowebar]

It seems that (on this board anyway) that Axl is not getting the same support/sympathy this time around as far as GH/no news on CD is concerned. What say you (guys)?

I'm personally getting really pissed-off with Axl man.

I've been a fan since '96 and have put up with far too much shit than a fan should have to.

He should sit down and remember what it was like to have a favourite band that you love and put himself in our shoes.

How would Axl like it? This is total bullshit man.

Axl, it seems, is one heartless motherfucker as far as I'm concerned and has lost touch with reality.

Yes SLC, there's more frustration here now and it's fucking getting worse by the day.

AXL IS A SICK FUCKING SADIST AND DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF US!!!

[AxlGunner]

well it seems like we got his back the first time and then he let us down...

i mean, we don't know the story behind it, but the most believable one that i've heard is that the record company agreed to drop the GH in november so long as axl promised to have CD in their hands by a certain date (most likely a couple months). it's now a couple months later, axl hasn't delivered CD, and now the record label is once again threatening to put out GH.

they gave him one chance to stop it, and he couldn't come through, so why should they give him a second chance? hopefully there's still time for axl to finish up and give CD to them, but i don't see it happening.

i think that's why there isn't as much sympathy for axl this time around. nonetheless, i really dont want to see this crappy half-assed GH album come out. i'm sure its probably designed to punish axl and recoup some $$, but come on, think about the fans for once. sheesh.

[Crowebar]

give CD to them, but i don't see it happening.

but come on, think about the fans for once. sheesh.

They don't give a fuck about the fans dude. They never have. All they care about is getting our money out of our pockets and putting it in theirs.


Makes me wanna' [puke] sometimes.