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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2004, 07:42:16 PM »


Yeah, but I really don't understand their intentions for releasing a greatest hits CD. I think if it flops, which it very well could, it could put GNR in an even more bad light which they don't need. Plus, if they're going to release a GH CD why don't they put more thought into it with a tracklist that we actually like? I also don't like the idea of a label going against an artists wishes, even if the artist is as bullheaded as Axl.

But I completely agree with you on sending something to GNR's managment for a status update at the very least. I'm all for that.

Well, I don't think a GH would put them in a bad light if it flops because GH's are held to much lower standards. I mean, they aren't even going to release a new track to promote it so logic says it's not going to be a huge success. So I don't know how anyone could say it was a flop. I agree about the tracklisting though. I think it should contain a much better tracklisting. Personally, I'd rather see DVD but I guess they wanted the most cost-effective way to get some money back into the account.

I don't mind them going against Axl's wishes because it's only reasonable for them to want to get something for all that money they sunk into this project. I can't imagine them even breaking even on this.  no They have to be more frustrated than any one of us could imagine.

We should start our own campaign to management.   ok What email addy do we use?  Huh
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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2004, 07:43:21 PM »

for those about to rock we sallute you!!!!

hey i know im "a newbie" but shit ive been reading all these posts form you fuckers since last march.....i agree with writing an email an i must say im lazy motherfucker but as soon as i seen that i and my fellow gunners were asked to go to bat fer our band... i clicked off the porn and typed up a civil email and sent it post haste.....if yer serious about the love of this band stand up and make it count... now is the time Grin
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2004, 07:49:00 PM »


Yeah, but I really don't understand their intentions for releasing a greatest hits CD. I think if it flops, which it very well could, it could put GNR in an even more bad light which they don't need. Plus, if they're going to release a GH CD why don't they put more thought into it with a tracklist that we actually like? I also don't like the idea of a label going against an artists wishes, even if the artist is as bullheaded as Axl.

But I completely agree with you on sending something to GNR's managment for a status update at the very least. I'm all for that.

Well, I don't think a GH would put them in a bad light if it flops because GH's are held to much lower standards. I mean, they aren't even going to release a new track to promote it so logic says it's not going to be a huge success. So I don't know how anyone could say it was a flop. I agree about the tracklisting though. I think it should contain a much better tracklisting. Personally, I'd rather see DVD but I guess they wanted the most cost-effective way to get some money back into the account.

I don't mind them going against Axl's wishes because it's only reasonable for them to want to get something for all that money they sunk into this project. I can't imagine them even breaking even on this.  no They have to be more frustrated than any one of us could imagine.

We should start our own campaign to management.   ok What email addy do we use?  Huh

We should! hihi

I know an e-mail to use if need be Wink
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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2004, 07:53:04 PM »

He's just got one from Poland...  Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2004, 07:54:03 PM »

5th did.

I am considering this a BOYCOTT

Tell David we will boycott the album if it is released. Universal will not get our money.
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« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2004, 08:11:32 PM »

Has anybody received a response from this David fucker yet??? Huh Shocked


If you do, we'd all like to know what that useless piece of shit has to say. yes ok
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« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2004, 08:14:30 PM »

Sent and CC'd.

Id rather shag Cher than buy that!

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« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2004, 08:21:37 PM »

SLCPUNK , that petiton can be useful now in some way ?!  Huh

NOPE.


Where was everybody when I had this the first time?

Most of my sigs came from S America and Europe.

I don't have time to do a petition now.

The old one was deleted once the GH was 'pulled'.
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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2004, 08:31:14 PM »

o.k I am going to send an e-mail but the thing is. I'm getting tired of having to fight axl's battles for him. We all signed a petition last time we had the gh fiasco. I spent hours searching for websites for the street team that probably will not have anything to promote anytime soon. If there is no news about cd anytime soon at least an update or something, I am going to not even participate in the street team thing. It's been said a million times, but what is so hard about writing a paragraph concerning what the band is up to? They are taking a shit on each and every fan. Don't get me wrong I still love axl and gn'r, but this is starting to get real old, in fact it's been old for about 3 years now.  I can totally understand the record label doing this, maybe its not even about the money, maybe they are just trying to piss axl off because they have become impatient. I mean all things considered I think axl's record label has been pretty damn patient up to this point. I don't know, its all becoming too fucked up. I think a large chunk of the fanbase has already been alienated by the cancelled tour and no shows, and I think we have lost even more since then. but alas, I will send an e-mail just because I don't like the track selections, and I hope if it gets cancelled again, maybe something will actually happen with cd.
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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2004, 08:38:10 PM »

sent an email and CC'ed it... the tracklisting sucks... no bonus features or new shit on it... GH will be lame... but axl needs to get off his ass and deliver CD
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« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2004, 08:39:44 PM »

o.k I am going to send an e-mail but the thing is. I'm getting tired of having to fight axl's battles for him. We all signed a petition last time we had the gh fiasco. I spent hours searching for websites for the street team that probably will not have anything to promote anytime soon. If there is no news about cd anytime soon at least an update or something, I am going to not even participate in the street team thing. It's been said a million times, but what is so hard about writing a paragraph concerning what the band is up to? They are taking a shit on each and every fan. Don't get me wrong I still love axl and gn'r, but this is starting to get real old, in fact it's been old for about 3 years now.  I can totally understand the record label doing this, maybe its not even about the money, maybe they are just trying to piss axl off because they have become impatient. I mean all things considered I think axl's record label has been pretty damn patient up to this point. I don't know, its all becoming too fucked up. I think a large chunk of the fanbase has already been alienated by the cancelled tour and no shows, and I think we have lost even more since then. but alas, I will send an e-mail just because I don't like the track selections, and I hope if it gets cancelled again, maybe something will actually happen with cd.

You've got some great points in there. Of course it opens the whole can of worms about "what's owed" fans or not. I think they should give us something, some kind of update. Something. I'm tired of the whole fiasco and I'm not signing jack squat. No offense to those who do.
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« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2004, 08:57:31 PM »

I have a suggestion. Someone should copy/paste all theses comments from this here message, and then forwards them to that e-mail address that Mysteron gave. There seems to be a lot of grit just in this thread alone!
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« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2004, 09:03:09 PM »

How do you know this album got no Axl's approval ??

management


Mysteron,
You seem to be "in the know" more than anybody on here. A straight-forward and direct question for you -- What in the hell is going on in GNR camp right now? If you have communication capability with GNR management, I would think it would be realistic for you to ask for and receive some sort of "state of the union" message. Clearly, we deserve it and you seem to be the only person around here who can get it.  I'm not asking for a specific release date. But, I would love more than "We'll let you know when there's something to announce".  

Thanks so much.

dude..... I?m tired of saying this
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« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2004, 09:23:15 PM »

I have a suggestion. Someone should copy/paste all theses comments from this here message, and then forwards them to that e-mail address that Mysteron gave. There seems to be a lot of grit just in this thread alone!

Or just send and email with the link.

The guy is going to get tired of getting bombed with emails.  In regards to keeping the emails civil , I'd bet many have gone off the path already.
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« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2004, 09:30:58 PM »

I have a suggestion. Someone should copy/paste all theses comments from this here message, and then forwards them to that e-mail address that Mysteron gave. There seems to be a lot of grit just in this thread alone!

Or just send and email with the link.



Nah... even if he read this thread, he will think "just 20 people trying to stop a label decision..."
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« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2004, 10:51:23 PM »

I have a suggestion. Someone should copy/paste all theses comments from this here message, and then forwards them to that e-mail address that Mysteron gave. There seems to be a lot of grit just in this thread alone!

Or just send and email with the link.

The guy is going to get tired of getting bombed with emails.  In regards to keeping the emails civil , I'd bet many have gone off the path already.

He may have the IT guys blocking any e-mails sent to him that end with hotmail.com or yahoo.com.

Just a thought but it may happen.

I guess nobody's gotten a reply yet??? Huh

Perhaps he'll write someone back tomorrow and try to explain some shit to us???

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« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2004, 10:57:57 PM »

The protests shouldnt be about Chinese Democracy. It should be about protesting a very pointless release. If everyone keeps emailing them and just telling them how dumb of an idea this is they might reconsider it or atleast delay it again.

My only concern is this:
 By releasing this stupid album they are simply ruing the new lineup. This cd will not seel, and as a result the label tell gnr they will not get a full promotional push for cd becuase of poor greatest hits sales. Then we will get more delays. Its gonan be a mess. If this is all true.
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« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2004, 11:06:28 PM »

You have to look at this from Universal's point of view. Axl is taking forever. And I don't think that a GH album will hurt Chinese Democracy if it ever comes out. Most people won't even know the GH exists even after its on store shelves.

I didn't even know the Live Era album existed until 2 years after it came out, lol!! (it was before I came to the boards), and I consider myself a pretty good GN'R fan. I saw it on the shelf two years later and was like WOW!, and then looked and saw 1999 on the back. Smiley If the GH album gets only minor advertising and no MTV/TV support, it will be almost completely harmless, in my opinion. Look at Aerosmith and all their compilations.

I'm sure if Axl called Universal tomorrow and said "Okay, if you cancel the GH for March 23, I will release Chinese Democracy in April and I'll sign to it", Universal would burn all the GH material in a second. But it seems everyone is getting frustrated at our favorite braided bad boy.

Personally, i'd like to see the Gh album. It'd be SOMETHING, which is more than what we have now.
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« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2004, 11:15:07 PM »

I think this release is irrelevant to the new band. Their music is the only thing that will help or hurt them. There's a whole past of Guns N' Roses that they have to live up to and this minor release that will get very little attention will not be a problem for anyone.

Sure, this means Chinese Democracy won't be coming out in March or close to it... and cancelling this GH thing won't change that. So I don't see the point.
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« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2004, 11:18:06 PM »

I'm not sure where I stand on this one, nor the ramifications, good or bad for a release of CD.

If a GH release gets Universal some money back on the Axl investment, good for them.

On the other, if it upsets management, who knows when/if the new record will ever see the light of day.

Maybe the supposed GH release date is a power play from the label to get Axl to turn CD over...

It'll be interesting to watch..
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