Regardless, the two songs shouldnt be compared at all. Theres no reason for it.
Says fukin who dude. WHy are you making this a project. ALL the guy did was compare lyrics from a new gnr songs to the lyrics of a vr song. He wasnt trying to show his favortism or any of that shit. His article was more about the lyrics and why axl is better becuase of songs like maddy. Theres no reason for you to analyze it anymore than that.
If hes attempting to prove that Weilands werent his best, dont you think it would make a little more sense to compare them to Weilands better lyrics?
How many VR songs have we heard so far? He has prob only heard stm and slither. He is comparing vr to gnr. Not stp.
The only reason to bring up Axl, therefore turning him into the reviews focal point, is simply to demonstrate how much he likes Axl and "Madagascar". And that would be fine if it were a comparative essay, but its supposed to be a review about "Slither". And bringing up unrelated songs and explaining why theyre better is inappropriate, in any case.
I really feel bad for you, i really do.
Im going to conatct all journalists from now on and tell them they must consult you before they write anything on gnr/vr.
You act like journalist try to bring up axl and praise him all the time. The guy never gets any positive press{whetehr you think he doesnt deserve it or not, not the point). To say that this journalist went out of his way just to bash vr is dumb. Maybe the guy thinks maddy shits all over slither. He happens to be right but thats his opinion. You dont hae to agree. But you also dont have to be a lil pussy about it. holy shit.
The songs might be unrelated but not what the guy was dicussing,lyrics. therefore the type of song is irreleavnt.
I havent seen an article that has done that yet...maybe youre referring to Maxims one sentence? If so, Ive said before that it was a poor review for just that reason - it focused on shit that had nothing to do with the music. Feel free to search for that thread and see for yourself.
Dude theres been countless articles over the years that make fun of axl and the new band. Whether its reviewing the past tour or discussing vr, gnr always find itself in an article and there always getting ripped.
I love how people automatically accuse people of not being able to handle negative criticism towards Velvet Revolver just because they point out the flaws in this article
I love how people exploit non topic things such as how professional the article is. WHo the fuck cares. We arent discussing jounralism. We are discussing what the guy said. Plus no "Axl fan" disects an unfair negative article on gnr. They discuss whats being discussed. not dismiss it because of its errors or unprofessinilaism. who the fuck cares.
Maybe some of you are desperately trying to cling onto anything positive towards Axl's GNR that you are blinded to the flaws in this piece
Well being that everything about new gnr is negative for the most part and so off base its not even funny theres an article that actually is positive for a change. Who cares about the flaws in the piece? WOw you peopel need a life.
It doesn't bother me in the least that someone may think Madgascar is better. That's perfectly fine with me because everyone has their preferences. However, I don't appreciate shoddy journalism.
Thats fine. but why make a big deal of the journalism who cares. We are not discussing journalism here.
Shoddy jounralism should be a surprise. Read about 95% of articles concerning gnr over the past few years and you will see it at its best. But no1 brings it up becase who cares and if some1 did they would be labeled an axl loyalist who cant take a negative review.
but it's irresponsible to compare the two songs
He wasnt comparing songs. He was discussing lyrics. Theres only a handful of new gnr songs and new vr songs out there. He said lyrics like maddy show why axl is a great songwriter and lyrics in slither show why weiland isnt. Nothing more nothing less.
First of all, the writer is wrong in assuming that everyone has heard Madagascar and I'm fairly certain any music journalist would know this. Madagascar is an unreleased track that can only be found on bootlegs. The only people who has heard it are us diehards that seek it out. The average person reading a review like this is totally clueless about Madgascar. Secondly, you don't compare a studio version of a song to a live version (unless they are the same song) of a song because the live version is likely a rough version. We have no clue as to what it finally will sound like or even make it onto Chinese Democracy
How is he wrong for discussing an unreleased track. He giving his readers insight if they havnt heard it.
The studio to live thing is bullshit. WHat is so hard to understand baout this....HE ISNT COMPARING SONG STYLES. He is comparing lyrics. He doesnt even need to hear the song. Write the lyrics on paper if it makes u happy.
Most importantly, it's just silly to compare two totally different bands. The guy is completely wrong saying the greatest test is to measure it against the new GNR. It's comparing apples to oranges. If one is better that doesn't mean the other isn't good. A fairer and more accurate comparison would be to old GNR and even STP to see how these guys progressed (or not) from their glory days.
I know godfor bid we compare bands. I for the most part agree with what you said. But the comparison between vr and gnr will always come up. its only natural and something each band will have to deal with. Weiland is alreadys howing signs of cracking when it comes to this. Imagine when cd does come out and the comparisons are in every article. There will be a few more statements on that webiste of his
Honestly, some of you VR fans need to chill out and take criticism better.
There handling it just fine. Disecting articles and shit. pussies. Its ok when cd comes out its gonna shit all over all of you i cant wait. Then youll disect those reviews and tell me how they are obsessed with axl. while you do that ill be listening to the greatest cd ever made.
Ha, my point exactly. I remember taking issue with an OMG review which refered to the reviewers loathing of the GN'R version of Sympathy for the Devil. I said what the fuck does that have to do with OMG. It's totally irrelevant and had nothing to do with OMG.
You didn't take issue with that. Despite at least a couple of posts in that particular thread you didn't even mention it, or tell us how it makes it a bad review. Now it's something against VR, you can't stop going on about it.
of course not. It blasted the new band unfairly and peopel who were offended got bashed for not being able to handle a negative review. How things come full circle. the funny thing is this wasnt a negative article...im sure they will come as we go though cant wait to hear those protests....
Booker, i think its pretty clear to us all by now that you'll go any length to tear down a positive review on Axl, you'd complain about the style, language, context or whatever to undermine the writers opinion.
Thats been clear a long time ago. Booker seems liek the type of person who wants the cake and eat it too. he claims he lieks gnr yet i never see him go to any great lenghts to defend them. He might come out with some smart sentence here and there and try to appear objective but its such horseshit. I could careless either way. You give me a good laugh booker. i appreciate it
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