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« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2004, 10:16:34 PM »

I'm not surprised that Duff likes Foo Fighters.

... These are my thoughts regarding Duff.  This is not a Duff-bashing post, just my honest opinons.

1. I think it's 'interesting' that Duff & Matt are making it very clear to mingle with the current crowd in music (Foos, Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, etc).  Instead of trying to be above them, they are trying to stay with them.  A deliberate intention to cut away from how GNR acted in the past.  
GNR vs. misc. hair bands, GNR vs. Nirvana, GNR vs. the entire universe.

2.  Duff stayed with Axl the longest.  This says to me that he, more than Izzy, more than Slash, was willing to modernize their sound.  
But it didnt work out b/c of Axl's behavior.  So, instead he and Matt are gonna do it their own way.  

3. Before VR, most people associated Duff (& Slash, Matt) with the bloated tentacled monster that GNR became.  They weren't given the respect they deserved.  
So Duff returns to his Seattle roots.  I dont know how he became friends with Scott Weiland, but Weiland = cool grunge/alternative scene.  
No way in hell are they gonna hook up with Bach.

Soooo:

VR is not going to be over-the-top.  They are gonna align themselves with the current scene. No negative 'rockstar' connotations here.

I doubt they'll do stadium tours.  They'll keep it low-key. Same for their music videos (if they make any).
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« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2004, 10:59:30 PM »

Oh... one more thing.  Anyone who starts fucking around with to many effects in Pro Tools (such as guitar amp sims etc) is a fool.  Keep it simple.  To many people go off on one because they get with the new software.
Yeah, I mean check out how shit Buckethead sounds... Tongue

And Billy Howerdel is such a fool...APC suck so bad... Wink

Pro-Tools isn't all bad, but when it's grossly misused like Metallica did...then....well, people that stupid shouldn't be allowed near a computer.

Um, how exactly did Metallica misuse Pro Tools?
St. Anger is such a raw/underproduced album you can barely notice where they've even used Pro Tools.
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« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2004, 11:12:35 PM »

I'm not surprised that Duff likes Foo Fighters.

... These are my thoughts regarding Duff.  This is not a Duff-bashing post, just my honest opinons.

1. I think it's 'interesting' that Duff & Matt are making it very clear to mingle with the current crowd in music (Foos, Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, etc).  Instead of trying to be above them, they are trying to stay with them.  A deliberate intention to cut away from how GNR acted in the past.  
GNR vs. misc. hair bands, GNR vs. Nirvana, GNR vs. the entire universe.

2.  Duff stayed with Axl the longest.  This says to me that he, more than Izzy, more than Slash, was willing to modernize their sound.  
But it didnt work out b/c of Axl's behavior.  So, instead he and Matt are gonna do it their own way.  

3. Before VR, most people associated Duff (& Slash, Matt) with the bloated tentacled monster that GNR became.  They weren't given the respect they deserved.  
So Duff returns to his Seattle roots.  I dont know how he became friends with Scott Weiland, but Weiland = cool grunge/alternative scene.  
No way in hell are they gonna hook up with Bach.

Soooo:

VR is not going to be over-the-top.  They are gonna align themselves with the current scene. No negative 'rockstar' connotations here.

I doubt they'll do stadium tours.  They'll keep it low-key. Same for their music videos (if they make any).

I think the beauty of GN'R was the different musical personalities and styles that mixed up to make that sound. Apart from Believe In Me, I thought Duff has always kinda had a modern punk sound not that dissimilar to Foos or Queens, just listen to Loaded or Beautiful Disease for proof of that.
Matt has played with the Cult who, again have changed over the years to keep modern.

So these modern elements along with the classic based style that Slash would bring would make up a very cool modern rock album! beer
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« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2004, 11:49:43 PM »

1. I think it's 'interesting' that Duff & Matt are making it very clear to mingle with the current crowd in music (Foos, Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, etc).  Instead of trying to be above them, they are trying to stay with them.  A deliberate intention to cut away from how GNR acted in the past.  
GNR vs. misc. hair bands, GNR vs. Nirvana, GNR vs. the entire universe.

Gotta disagree...

Duffs picks arent exactly "current".  Its not like he listed off the new breed of rock acts like The Strokes, The White Stripes, and other buzz bands.  He named off veteran acts and friends.  And while youre half right about GNRs superioroty complex, youe also half wrong.  They supported "new" acts such as Nine Inch Nails, Skid Row, Blind Melon, etc...even Nirvana.  But youre right, were probably looking at a much more humble group of guys.

Another reason I dont find it interesting is because thats the kind of music Duff is genuinely into, and those band are among the best bands out there.

2.  Duff stayed with Axl the longest.  This says to me that he, more than Izzy, more than Slash, was willing to modernize their sound.  
But it didnt work out b/c of Axl's behavior.  So, instead he and Matt are gonna do it their own way.  

Maybe...Thats a tough call.  Matt is clearly the most into the "modern" thing (Im already sick of this word).  By the sounds of Duffs comments, hes not particularly interested in all of that.  I think his intentions are less calculated than that.

3. Before VR, most people associated Duff (& Slash, Matt) with the bloated tentacled monster that GNR became.  They weren't given the respect they deserved.  
So Duff returns to his Seattle roots.  I dont know how he became friends with Scott Weiland, but Weiland = cool grunge/alternative scene.  

His friendship with Weiland was actualy pretty organic, as they met through their wives.
VR is not going to be over-the-top.

I dont think that was even an issue.  Most of the excesses in GNR werent their deal anyway.  Lets not forget theyre all at or pushing 40...its safe to say their days of decadence are over.  And before anybody comments on Weiland, his drug addiction doesnt constitute decadence.

They are gonna align themselves with the current scene. No negative 'rockstar' connotations here.

Well, Weiland will catch some "negative" rock star connotations, but the rest are alright.  And I dont think theyre gonna allign themselves with the current scene that much.  Its a tough call though.  Matt and Scott will, while Slash and Duff seem content with standing alone in todays soundscape, unconcerned with how "hip" they sound.

I doubt they'll do stadium tours.  They'll keep it low-key. Same for their music videos (if they make any).

Well come on, they cant do stadium tours.  Theres only a few, realtively contemporary bands who can even do so.  This band has achieved next-to-nothing so far, so clubs/theaters are just fine for now.  Let them hopefully make their mark and take it from there.

Im 100% positive they will make videos (cant see why they wouldnt...in fact they probably have to).  Cant wait to see what they do.  "Slither" has the potential to be very cool.  And the song itself gets better with every listen, I liked it a lot at first, and now Im loving it. ok
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« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2004, 12:03:12 PM »

Im 100% positive they will make videos (cant see why they wouldnt...in fact they probably have to).  Cant wait to see what they do.

What I'm worried about is that the All Things Shiny network doesnt really promote bands like VR.  Slash, Duff & Matt come from a band whose videos are famous and over the top.  If they make a low-key video I'm worried it will just go unnoticed, and if they make a flashy one, we will get the inevitable GNR comparisons.  
I dont see many veteran acts (and VR somewhat fits in that category) do the flashy video thing anymore.  It's more concentrated on radio/internet/print journalism promotion.  
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« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2004, 12:22:11 PM »

Velvet will get plenty of airplay on Mtv 2-the Foo Fighters make me wanna puke. If there is anything in the entire musical Universe that makes me wanna kill somebody, it is these pop punk bands who cop this "authentic" attitude-watered down candy ass pop is all it is. Grohl is a very talented guy and a complete monster on drums, but the Foo Fighters are garbage in my book, music for 13 year old girls who think they wanna be cool. QOTSA on the other hand and The White Stripes have their own sound and independence to them. Not a big fan of either but at least they are original.
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« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2004, 02:39:09 PM »

Yeah, I mean check out how shit Buckethead sounds... Tongue

hate to say it, but... my point exactly.  If BH wants to fuck around like a kid in a bedroom when he records his albums, and come out with guitar sounds like that... fine.  But if Slash and Co dropped their Marshall's in favour of AmpFarm, I would be fucking angry.  BH's on record guitar sounds, are mostly very cack.  And many of them are amp sim software.  I guess it's for ease of recording. He probably makes his music in front of the PC.  But it doesn't always sound so hot.
I think his tone is pretty good.  Although, I've only heard bits of his studio stuff, but what I've heard, I thought was good.

But anyway, the argument is stupid, because Slassh would never, for all the money in the world, take anything over a Marshall.  Ever.
And I doubt they're using Pro-tools how Metallica did, so all is good.  smoking
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« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2004, 08:58:58 PM »

If you read the article anarchy posted in this thread, you'll see that it says:

"All guitar overdubs on the Velvet Revolver record were cut directly to ProTools at Pulse, Josh Abraham's studio. The band co-produced the tracks alongside Abraham, but he took charge and worked on timing problems.

Slash was inititally uneasy about with the working enviroment at Pulse, but ultimately, the studio was set up to his liking."

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I guess Slash has been using ProTools after all.




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