what a good year

[Christos AG]

2003 was the best GN'R year...

All the anticipation and the agony...

and the RIR4 announcement...

and the Greatest Hits cancellation...

Well, at least I visited L.A. and went to the Roxy and the Rainbow...

[MadmanDan]

Sure GnR was big in 1992 but the end was near.  Nirvana's Nevermind came out in the Fall of 91 and by summer of 92 the reaper was at the door for the entire hair metal scene.  Despite the fact that GnR and Metallica were touring together and conquering the world, Nirvana still totally changed the direction that music was going.  So I don't know how good of a year 92 actually was for the Gunners...

GNR ain't a fuckin' hair band,dude!!!!  Nirvana didn't change the direction the music was going.Stop beleving in all the crap documentaries you see on TV.

[MrBen]

It was kind cool in 92 how GNR went totally against the grain, and while new bands or grunge bands were stripping everything down GNR went and got extra musicians/singers and made the most expensive videos ever.

That took some balls and they got a lot of stick for doing it.

Nirvana may have put the last nail in the coffin of hairmetal but GNR dug the grave.

[gilld1]

MadmanDan, please tell me how you know so much about what went on in 91-92?  You were about 7-8 years old, I'm sure you were listening to the radio a lot then!!  To deny that Nirvana changed the way that music was going is a total shortcut to thinking.  Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and STP were starting to dominate the radio and MTV, as was NIN.  People were growing tired of the thoughtless party music that the 80s scene produced, they wanted music with substance. I didn't have to watch documentaries about it, I was 18-19 years old.  You were still watching Saturday morning cartoons and playing on the swings at recess.  I didn't say that GnR was a hair metal band but like it or not that is how they were classified at the time.  Don't get me wrong, I love GnR, but your statement was bullocks.

[bolton]

MadmanDan, please tell me how you know so much about what went on in 91-92?  You were about 7-8 years old, I'm sure you were listening to the radio a lot then!!  To deny that Nirvana changed the way that music was going is a total shortcut to thinking.  Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and STP were starting to dominate the radio and MTV, as was NIN.  People were growing tired of the thoughtless party music that the 80s scene produced, they wanted music with substance. I didn't have to watch documentaries about it, I was 18-19 years old.  You were still watching Saturday morning cartoons and playing on the swings at recess.  I didn't say that GnR was a hair metal band but like it or not that is how they were classified at the time.  Don't get me wrong, I love GnR, but your statement was bullocks.

i don't aggry with you man,gnr was more more popular than nirvana(gnr album was sold in more more copies than nirvana,gnr uyi tour was bigger than any nirvana or pearl tour).nirvana,pearl jam had a bog media popularuty,but never was big like gnr.

[gilld1]

Some of you just don't get it!  I never said that Nirvana or any other Seattle band sold more than GnR, I never said that their tours were bigger, etc.  My point was and still is that 1992-93 was the beginning of the end for GnR and the start of a new music scene, Alt-Rock, Grunge, whatever you want to call it.  The influence of these bands (Nirvana, AIC, PJ, NIN) can still be heard today in countless numbers of bands.  They changed music!  How many bands today have a GnR or 80s metal sound?  One or two??  Even in them, the Brides of Destruction, The Darkness, you can still here how Cobain and others influenced their sound.  I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm just sayin'....

[Christos AG]

Even in them, the Brides of Destruction, The Darkness, you can still here how Cobain and others influenced their sound.  I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm just sayin'....

I don't know the Brides Of Destruction, but about The Darkness, where exactly did you hear something close to "Cobain"?

I see more GN'R than Cobain in The Darkness...

[gilld1]

I hear it in the dirtiness of the guitar sound.  It's not as crisp as the 80 metal sound.  In my opinion, that comes from the Seattle Era sound.  Maybe not specifically Cobain, perhaps Jerry Cantrell or Kim Thayil.  At any rate, the new psuedo 80s rock has been influenced and updated thanks in great part to the bands that rocked from the mid-90s.

[Christos AG]

I hear it in the dirtiness of the guitar sound.  It's not as crisp as the 80 metal sound.  In my opinion, that comes from the Seattle Era sound.  Maybe not specifically Cobain, perhaps Jerry Cantrell or Kim Thayil.  At any rate, the new psuedo 80s rock has been influenced and updated thanks in great part to the bands that rocked from the mid-90s.

Jarmo knows I love the Darkness. I saw them live and I got lots of bootlegs.

From my experience with the Darkness, I don't have the same opinion as you.

But that's just my opinion...

[bolton]

Some of you just don't get it!  I never said that Nirvana or any other Seattle band sold more than GnR, I never said that their tours were bigger, etc.  My point was and still is that 1992-93 was the beginning of the end for GnR and the start of a new music scene, Alt-Rock, Grunge, whatever you want to call it.  The influence of these bands (Nirvana, AIC, PJ, NIN) can still be heard today in countless numbers of bands.  They changed music!  How many bands today have a GnR or 80s metal sound?  One or two??  Even in them, the Brides of Destruction, The Darkness, you can still here how Cobain and others influenced their sound.  I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm just sayin'....

i dson't aqgryy with you again.well,as i said grunge music have had media popularity,and we have many bands know which cdopied gnr,but these bands are underground

[Hung Well]

Sure GnR was big in 1992 but the end was near.  Nirvana's Nevermind came out in the Fall of 91 and by summer of 92 the reaper was at the door for the entire hair metal scene.  Despite the fact that GnR and Metallica were touring together and conquering the world, Nirvana still totally changed the direction that music was going.  So I don't know how good of a year 92 actually was for the Gunners...

But dude tell me this. From September of 1991 to July of 1993 GN'R sold 32 million copies of the Illusion albums worldwide while Nirvana only sold 8 million copies worldwide of In Utero and Nevermind. They sold 24 million more copies than the biggest Grunge band ever in a period of one year and 10 months. What kind of slump is that? Dude back in the 1990s Guns N' Roses pulled out Michael Jackson type of album sales. That you can't forget.

Nobody is denying that GNR sold a lot of records in '92-93.  

However, by the end of 92, at least in America, GNR was clearly out of favor with the public, with Nirvana and Pearl Jam taking their slot.

This was never more apparant than at the '92 VMA's.  GNR sleepwalked through their performance of NR.  Nirvana performed Lithium in one of the most memorable VMA performances ever--topped off with Grohl mocking Axl  (ironically, its up there with GNR's '88 performance of WTTJ, which was  )