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« Reply #500 on: February 21, 2015, 08:17:09 PM »

I am sure he had to justify it to himself; I am certain he felt he had a distinct 'reason' for doing it. 



I know it's not mentioned specifically in the contract, but he would still need a reason for putting it in there in case questions was raised about why it was there.

We don't know if Slash or Duff questioned it (I have to think that they did, otherwise that's beyond stupid), but I'm certain Axl was prepared to defend the amendment.

Concerning Slash and Duff, there is the coercion story, that Axl threatened to not go on stage at a certain Use Your Illusion concert if Slash/Duff did not sign the amendment. This story has been mentioned by both Slash and Duff, refuted by Axl, and keenly debated on most of the forums (except for this one).

Part 2 of the picture you provided (the one with the final signatures) shows clearly that they (Slash and Duff) signed that document almost a week apart. That's proof right there that Axl is telling the truth about that particular story.

I know some can say that they only had to sign the actual amendment (the yellowed text) at the same time, but that wouldn't make any sense as those signatures would mean nothing unless the final line is signed.

The debates have been intense on this, not helped by the fact that MSL refused to release the rest of the document for some mysterious reason, and that Slash and Duff's dates do not correspond (Slash says 1992; Duff says, Barcelona 1993). My own belief is that something like this did happen, but there was an intermediary figure, perhaps Goldstein or the tour manager, who insinuated that Axl would not go on stage.
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« Reply #501 on: February 21, 2015, 08:36:45 PM »

But when Axl said he said he's be sued into oblivion if he did that...isn't that right?
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« Reply #502 on: February 21, 2015, 08:54:50 PM »

But when Axl said he said he's be sued into oblivion if he did that...isn't that right?

Around this whole time frame there was some very strange buisness moves by gnr..

For example before the naming rights mess happend Izzy left the band.  One of Izzys biggest reasons for leaving was over money.  The band tried to change the partnership agreement with him.  There by making izzy an employee not a partner   Now I am not saying that is all Axl because duff and slash benifited from this as well.  But then around 1995 the same thing happend when Axl left the partnership of himself duff and slash.  And tried to make those too employees.   

So I do defend axl when it comes to the name rights.  I don't think his motive was pure finacial.  But damn with all that above. The pieces sure dos line up for him to have sole power in the band. 
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« Reply #503 on: February 21, 2015, 09:01:20 PM »

If that story were true, I'd have to think Slash or Duff would have grounds to claim they were coerced into signing, lest risk a riot.

It becomes a public safety issue, doesn't it?
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« Reply #504 on: February 21, 2015, 11:25:31 PM »

If that story were true, I'd have to think Slash or Duff would have grounds to claim they were coerced into signing, lest risk a riot.

It becomes a public safety issue, doesn't it?

There has to be some truth to this, unless both those guys are making up the story.   But again, Axl has left the stage and came on late many times.    If it was me and someone said sign this piece of paper that pretty much takes millions away from you and gives it to me.  I would say Ya right pal, not going to happen.  But those two did sign it!!!!   So there you go. 
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« Reply #505 on: February 22, 2015, 03:14:31 AM »

At best, Duff and Slash were told at the same time of the demands and gave a signal that they would sign it.... But even then, in the cold light of day, would they sign it  Huh Me thinks they didn't get implications and decided not to kill the golden goose by signing away their (at that time) rights,  The moral argument is a another matter. Sorry to go off message, now can we go back to the interview and enjoy discussing that  yes
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« Reply #506 on: February 22, 2015, 08:09:03 AM »

We will probably never know the complete truth.
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« Reply #507 on: February 22, 2015, 10:36:42 AM »

At best, Duff and Slash were told at the same time of the demands and gave a signal that they would sign it.... But even then, in the cold light of day, would they sign it  Huh Me thinks they didn't get implications and decided not to kill the golden goose by signing away their (at that time) rights,  The moral argument is a another matter. Sorry to go off message, now can we go back to the interview and enjoy discussing that  yes

I agree, why continue to debate a clearly Dead Horse topic simply because some seek to further their invented narrative.

Can we discuss the Interview?
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« Reply #508 on: February 22, 2015, 10:54:11 AM »

I can only speak for myself but I actually find it an interesting Sherlockian mystery.
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« Reply #509 on: February 25, 2015, 11:10:08 AM »

The Dead Daisies will be in Europe this summer. They've just been announced to appear at the Download festival in England in June as well as opening shows for KISS the same month.




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« Reply #510 on: February 25, 2015, 06:32:48 PM »

The Dead Daisies will be in Europe this summer. They've just been announced to appear at the Download festival in England in June as well as opening shows for KISS the same month.




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Then there might be a chance for shows in Scandinavia. At least we can hope.
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