Tommy Stinson : "I Am Out Of The Loop"

[Spirit]

I guess I'm just numb to it now.  It's been essentially the Axl Rose show since they returned in 2001.  He calls the shots, end of story.  Me?  I just want the followup to Chinese Democracy we've been promised 9 million times, and if we're lucky, a U.S. arena tour soon after.  Getting into a semantics laced conversation about how informed Axl keeps Bumblefoot is the last thing I care about.  But again, that's just my feelings on the matter.

No, you are ultimately right.  And I'm with you on that.

Its only a topic of conversation here, where people are committed to the other side.  Most times, most places, this never gets past a "yeah, shit's fucked up, man" and you both sort of chuckle and move on.

Its only here we dissect.  Due to the need to some to have it all make sense and all appear on the up and up.  "Shit's fucked up, man" won't play here. 

Why?  Why do you say that?  What's wrong with you?  Its funny how you call yourself a fan?  Why are you here?  Why were you born?  Why did your parents even date?

With all due respect, why did you start this thread then?

[D-GenerationX]

I guess I'm just numb to it now.  It's been essentially the Axl Rose show since they returned in 2001.  He calls the shots, end of story.  Me?  I just want the followup to Chinese Democracy we've been promised 9 million times, and if we're lucky, a U.S. arena tour soon after.  Getting into a semantics laced conversation about how informed Axl keeps Bumblefoot is the last thing I care about.  But again, that's just my feelings on the matter.

No, you are ultimately right.  And I'm with you on that.

Its only a topic of conversation here, where people are committed to the other side.  Most times, most places, this never gets past a "yeah, shit's fucked up, man" and you both sort of chuckle and move on.

Its only here we dissect.  Due to the need to some to have it all make sense and all appear on the up and up.  "Shit's fucked up, man" won't play here. 

Why?  Why do you say that?  What's wrong with you?  Its funny how you call yourself a fan?  Why are you here?  Why were you born?  Why did your parents even date?

With all due respect, why did you start this thread then?

To get people's take on it.  Not everyone here are the folks I'm talking about.

[Spirit]

I guess I'm just numb to it now.  It's been essentially the Axl Rose show since they returned in 2001.  He calls the shots, end of story.  Me?  I just want the followup to Chinese Democracy we've been promised 9 million times, and if we're lucky, a U.S. arena tour soon after.  Getting into a semantics laced conversation about how informed Axl keeps Bumblefoot is the last thing I care about.  But again, that's just my feelings on the matter.

No, you are ultimately right.  And I'm with you on that.

Its only a topic of conversation here, where people are committed to the other side.  Most times, most places, this never gets past a "yeah, shit's fucked up, man" and you both sort of chuckle and move on.

Its only here we dissect.  Due to the need to some to have it all make sense and all appear on the up and up.  "Shit's fucked up, man" won't play here. 

Why?  Why do you say that?  What's wrong with you?  Its funny how you call yourself a fan?  Why are you here?  Why were you born?  Why did your parents even date?

With all due respect, why did you start this thread then?

To get people's take on it.  Not everyone here are the folks I'm talking about.

"Shit's fucked up, man" seems to be your stance on it. People trying to make sense of it are living in an alternate universe as you said. Seems to me like this was a ruse to provoke conflict and mockery of the "militant Axl defenders".

What other take than "trying to make sense of it" is it?  - "Shit's fucked up, man"

[D-GenerationX]

"Shit's fucked up, man" seems to be your stance on it. People trying to make sense of it are living in an alternate universe as you said. Seems to me like this was a ruse to provoke conflict and mockery of the "militant Axl defenders".

What other take than "trying to make sense of it" is it?  - "Shit's fucked up, man"

Just the opposite.  I'm trying to avoid it.

That whole passage was an offshoot of the conversation about the interview.  By that point in the thread, it was about how its kind of goofy the way this band operates as opposed to the norm.  And not a point I introduced.  I was trying to tell our man, who is a somewhat new poster, that's a dead end here.

Am I wrong on that?

[Spirit]

"Shit's fucked up, man" seems to be your stance on it. People trying to make sense of it are living in an alternate universe as you said. Seems to me like this was a ruse to provoke conflict and mockery of the "militant Axl defenders".

What other take than "trying to make sense of it" is it?  - "Shit's fucked up, man"

Just the opposite.  I'm trying to avoid it.

That whole passage was an offshoot of the conversation about the interview.  By that point in the thread, it was about how its kind of goofy the way this band operates as opposed to the norm.  And not a point I introduced.  I was trying to tell our man, who is a somewhat new poster, that's a dead end here.

Am I wrong on that?

The way I see it, the original phrase "I am out of the loop" is about the way this band operates. I don't see the distinction here.

[D-GenerationX]

Well, I can only tell you where I was coming from as the conversation progressed.  But I can't make you believe me

I think if you look at all my comments in the order they were made, I am clearly trying to steer the conversation away from a topic I know is toxic and a guaranteed thread deralier.

[Spirit]

So, you do accept the reasoning people gave for why Tommy said what he said, as valid arguments, even though you disagree with them?

[jarmo]

If some of you are so into the Dead Horse topics, that's where you will find your discussions.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Now, go on. Do tell us all how it's not a real band, how things suck, how the album wasn't promoted enough, how it was such a big failure, how the setlist sucks, how they all contradict each other in interviews and whatever else your minds come up with when you've got too much free time to focus on this boring negative bullshit. 



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Awww, poor you.

[D-GenerationX]

So, you do accept the reasoning people gave for why Tommy said what he said, as valid arguments, even though you disagree with them?

Yeah, I suppose so.

[jarmo]

Awww, poor you.

I'm not the one crying about my posts not getting enough attention in this section.


That posts is why you got warnings. You just can't stop your act.



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

I expected this thread to be deleted outright before it hit a second page.

A move here is a net win, as far as I'm concerned.

[TheBaconman]

I am glad everyone calf out this self serving bum out here

He is the type that gets off on just seeing his name as the last post on each thread

His name?

He hides behind the worst wrestling name ever.    Worst. 

And admits he wears a hat every day...

It's not all about u pal.   

[D-GenerationX]

Ah, I remember my first beer.

[Bridge]

He hides behind the worst wrestling name ever.    Worst. 

Are you kidding me?  Bastion Booger, Red Rooster, Mr. Ass, T.L. Hopper, and the Booty Man (Brutus Beefcake's WCW name) were far worse than Degeneration X.

I think you need to lay off the Bacon... Man.

[D-GenerationX]

He hides behind the worst wrestling name ever.    Worst. 

Are you kidding me?  Bastion Booger, Red Rooster, Mr. Ass, T.L. Hopper, and the Booty Man (Brutus Beefcake's WCW name) were far worse than Degeneration X.

I think you need to lay off the Bacon... Man.

Yeah, totally offbase with that one.  Come on now.

[TheBaconman]

He hides behind the worst wrestling name ever.    Worst. 

Are you kidding me?  Bastion Booger, Red Rooster, Mr. Ass, T.L. Hopper, and the Booty Man (Brutus Beefcake's WCW name) were far worse than Degeneration X.

I think you need to lay off the Bacon... Man.

Yeah, totally offbase with that one.  Come on now.

Lol and I thought last night was actually friday.  So I kinda just made up my own long weekend.   Aww life is good

So now it's Friday night p2 for me.  And Ya the beers are tasting good.   But then vodka will taste that much better in a hour when it's vodka time

If you smellllllllllllllll.     What TheBaconman..........     

Is cooking.