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« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2011, 08:31:54 AM »

a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   Wink

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?

webcast or radio, tv audio these days is compressed in the 1st place, so theoretical you never can get a lossless version out of that. the best would be to get the unedited 1:1 stream audio and listen to that....but this wouldnt be WAV, MP3, FLAC etc. and pretty much uncomfortable to work with on Ipods, CDR players etc., being untracked aswell, and (like Rio 2011) ugly to work with (AAC audio) so the general idea is to capture it in the old school Audio CD format (16bit stereo, 44.1khz WAV). this time a few fans did record, or better: "upconverted" it directly in WAV. compressed sound, yep, like MP3 -> WAV, but the sound still is very nice, just a few minor fixes to do and then leaving it in this format (just FLACing it) without any more up-/downconverting is some good thing to do, but info must be in the folder and info-txt-file name so people can verify it years later that it isnt a lossless version from the start.

OK, so if it's "lossless" to begin with, how does converting it to flac help, that's what I'm asking. And where are the "skips" you were talking about?
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« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2011, 08:32:13 AM »

a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   Wink

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?


webcast or radio, tv audio these days is compressed in the 1st place, so theoretical you never can get a lossless version out of that. the best would be to get the unedited 1:1 stream audio and listen to that....but this wouldnt be WAV, MP3, FLAC etc. and pretty much uncomfortable to work with on Ipods, CDR players etc., being untracked aswell, and (like Rio 2011) ugly to work with (AAC audio) so the general idea is to capture it in the old school Audio CD format (16bit stereo, 44.1khz WAV). this time a few fans did record, or better: "upconverted" it directly in WAV. compressed sound, yep, like MP3 -> WAV, but the sound still is very nice, just a few minor fixes to do and then leaving it in this format (just FLACing it) without any more up-/downconverting is some good thing to do, but info must be in the folder and info-txt-file name so people can verify it years later that it isnt a lossless version from the start.
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OK, so if it's "lossy" to begin with, how does converting it to flac help, that's what I'm asking. And where are the "skips" you were talking about?

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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2011, 05:16:30 PM »

I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.
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« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2011, 06:48:46 PM »

How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?
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« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2011, 04:57:02 AM »

I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.
actually it's not, because mp3 conversion from lossy source means double lossy conversion which means even more quality loss from the (unbroadcasted) original.
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« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2011, 05:46:20 AM »

How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?

Good question. I'm sure somebody is, right?
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« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2011, 06:57:19 AM »

I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.
actually it's not, because mp3 conversion from lossy source means double lossy conversion which means even more quality loss from the (unbroadcasted) original.

That's a way to see it...

Lossy or "double lossy" is lossy anyway. Keeps sounding like a nonsense to me...
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« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2011, 07:50:32 AM »

How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?

there is one on Traders Den and one on Usenet.
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« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2011, 08:05:08 AM »

I don't see it on Traders Den.
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