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« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2006, 05:53:23 PM »

It seemed like the lead singer was kind of joking around taking it in stride...but the drummer should get bitch-slapped for dissing the band.?

On the Papa Roach front, I was surprised how much I enjoyed seeing the songs I've heard on the radio by them played live.? It reminded me as to why GNR doesn't play more new stuff without an album.? Anyone here who thinks GNR isn't playing enough new stuff is fucking crazy.? If you haven't heard an album on the radio or in a cd player, it just isn't the same.? ?peace

and LasVegas, cut the shit.? it aint over.? the tour is not bombing.? if it was bombing, would they still be so highly rated on Pollstar?? no.? god damn, if you watch that news story, it almost runs like an infomercial for the band.? Worcester's gonna rock.? Mark my words.? ?peace


I gotta disagree somewhat Axl4prez

They may be high on Poll star but where are the ticket sales?  Pollstar doesnt count very much in my opinion.

Thing is, When Axl pulls shit like this, it makes people skeptical and afraid to go to the concerts which is what explains the low ticket sales.

An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.

Axl's antics scare people away from the ticket office.

People think that just cause u get a refund, that makes it ok.

Think about time u take off work, babysitters, gas money, hotel money, food money

that adds up and u dont get a refund on that.
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« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2006, 06:00:54 PM »

I don't think you can blame Papa Roach for being upset, especially if they were not part of making the decision to cancel, which they obviously weren't.  It was GNR's call.  Those guys wanted to play a show.  It's GREAT exposure for them being on the road with GNR, they want to take advantage of it for as long as they can.  I think the fact that this is their last week on the tour (isn't it?) lets them free to voice their opinion.  IF they were on the bill for the remainder I don't think they would've been so vocal.
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« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2006, 06:01:08 PM »

"They probably know the real reason."? wtf?? MahiMahi, you're the kind of negative fuck Axl spoke of in Puerto Rico.?

How the hell is it "kissing Axl's ass," when we reserve judgement until the facts come out?

My point is do you think Sebastian Bach would give his "real" opinion on the situation if Axl was in the wrong?? Fuck no he wouldnt, at least Papa Roach is giving their "honest" opinion and not just sitting back and thinking they cant say anything because it is "Axl's" tour.

Like I said, so many people around here and in general WILL NOT admit when Axl is in the wrong, they rufuse too, and IMO its pathetic. Im not saying Axl was in the wrong in this situation because I honestly dont know, but im guessing PR does know the entire reason behind this and judging by that interview im guessing they dont agree with Axl or management or whoever cancelling it.
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« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2006, 06:03:36 PM »

The fans, word of mouth is the best promotion of all.? GnR and management did enough by saying it will be out by the end of the year.

Wrong, its not the "fans" job to promote this tour, what kinda stupid shit is that??

Its management and the record company's job to promote it. If it fails it is their fault, and nobody elses.
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« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2006, 06:05:00 PM »


An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.


There is no All time great band making a comeback...  It's just Axl... The rest of the all time great band left his ass.
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« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2006, 06:08:23 PM »

They are not filling out all the arenas, its an uphill battle with no new material on the radio to promote. This tour so far is attracting the diehard fans and the curious. With that said, I think they are doing pretty well considering. We'll see what the future brings........with the right promotion ( whatever that is going to be) and new music GNR will be huge again. But not yet.
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« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2006, 06:08:53 PM »


An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.


There is no All time great band making a comeback...  It's just Axl... The rest of the all time great band left his ass.

Ever seen the new band live?
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« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2006, 06:10:22 PM »

D, we've got to remember that this tour is being done with no album and no promotion. ?Yes, it sucks balls the show was cancelled, but what can we do? ?Do I blame Axl? ?No. ?Do I blame the pr/marketing guys/gals behind the band? ?Yes. ?This band needs exposure. ?They are so fucking good it's insane. ?If the whole country saw what these guys can do, I'd be happy. ?

If I'm not mistaken, didn't a Rolling Stones fan just sue that band for over $60 million due to a no-show??? ?GNR best be careful.

Someone posted a little while ago that if they just had a reunion, all the shows would sell out. ?In my opinion, not only would the shows sell out...Axl would be in my eyes a "sell-out." ?GNR 2006. ?CD's coming out this year and it will be amazing. ?Worcester, Mass. and MSG are coming this week. ?The sky is not falling...GNR is unpredictable and a bit fucking nuts...just hold on until this week is through. ? peace





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« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2006, 06:26:39 PM »

Im sure things will go better once CD is released but They are gonna have to do a better job once Cd comes out or its gonna be a major flop.

I worry that Axl is gonna release it with no promotion or anything that way he can have a Cop out if it fails, someone to blame....... the record label fucked the promotion angle.....



I dont think u should ever disappoint your fans.

3,000 people were ready to have one of the most amazing nights of their lives and to be left hanging is just unacceptable. 

A great performer, I wont say his name for fear of bashing but he said on Larry King Live:

Whether I am in front of 100,000 people or the 5 people in this studio,Im gonna give my very best everytime I perform.


Like I said earlier, Id rather hear GNR give a mediocre show than have them cancel and get no show at all.
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« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2006, 06:43:13 PM »


An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.


There is no All time great band making a comeback...? It's just Axl... The rest of the all time great band left his ass.

Ever seen the new band live?

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« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2006, 07:02:01 PM »

D, I'll give you that.  But honestly, you'd have to agree, Axl, when he shows up to a show, gives 110%.  I was in Jersey 2 nights ago and the performances were great.  I hate to be cynical, but damn, it's as if audiences need marketers and public relations people to get people really into a show.  That sucks balls.

Hopefully, we'll hear more about this.  It's been almost 4 years since Philly, and there still hasn't been an adequate explanation.  I don't know what else to say.



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« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2006, 11:47:13 PM »


An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.


There is no All time great band making a comeback...  It's just Axl... The rest of the all time great band left his ass.

Ever seen the new band live?

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You know how good they are then. It is kind of a comeback, but at the same time a new band which is better than anything out there right now.

 To me Axl is GNR, but not everyone agrees with that statement.
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« Reply #72 on: November 07, 2006, 11:50:22 PM »




Like I said earlier, Id rather hear GNR give a mediocre show than have them cancel and get no show at all.

It appears that Axl has a high standard that he does not want to stray from.

My .02 cents.
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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2006, 12:54:20 AM »

Well it wouldn't be a TRUE GN'R tour without a cancellation or some negative twisted turn in events now would it?  GN'R will be fine, and the album will be out soon..just keep the patience..I know how hard it is damn it but we gotta do it.
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« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2006, 12:55:09 AM »

I saw Papa Roach open and I'm def. a fan now.  Great performance, great music, and closed with Last Resort so I see nothing wrong with them being on tour with GN'R.
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« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2006, 07:15:34 AM »


An all time great band like GNR should have no problem selling close to full capacity, especially with such an epic comeback.


There is no All time great band making a comeback...? It's just Axl... The rest of the all time great band left his ass.

Ever seen the new band live?

yes

You know how good they are then. It is kind of a comeback, but at the same time a new band which is better than anything out there right now.

 To me Axl is GNR, but not everyone agrees with that statement.

No they really weren't. This was in 02.. I admit Axl was great but the rest of the band came accross as a joke.. Numchuck solo? Giving out toys?  The band was blah too.  I had seen the original band 3 times before that and this was nowhere close to that caliber..
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