Losing my respect for VR.

[D]

Falcon u got the facts on mixed up dude.

When Axl was gonna work with Moby it was before he was mainstream and world famous. it was before his big album *cant remember the title but the album he did the song with Gwen Stefani*

So this isnt the same thing even though I wasnt big on that either.

Still have u actually ever heard Pharell?

He isnt rock at all, he does these synth computer bleep type hooks throughout the whole songs and its just really bland.

If they wanted to do something hip hop, they shouldve got with Missy Elliot and timbaland. those two make very futuristic/original sounding compositions.

[MarioGunner]

I'd advise Slash to bury the hatchet with Axl, and Start Gn'R up again.

IIT WILL NEVER HAPPEN FUCK SLASH!!! The new band is better then the old finck and richard are fucking awesome together and tommy is the best bass player ive seen in a long time. This just shows that axl made slash! Slash sucks with out him and cant write shit with out axl by his side. While axl is selling out shows and everyone is talking about him, thelatest news on slash he filed for a divorce.

dude, you couldn?t be more wrong, what made guns n roses a big name back then was the five guys that started it, not only axl, true axl is a rock n roll icon, but he wouldn?t have gotten that far if Izzy and slash would have written so many songs, don?t be blind.

Tommy best bass player? in what world do you live in? and finck and fortus are not that great.... don?t get me wrong, i follow axl in everything he does, but not to the point where i get too blind to see, that this new line up is not as good as the original, believe it or not, wether you like it or not!!!!!

And slash can really make somethign nice, the second VR album might be just better than the first one, specially when i know that most of the material will be slash?s creation.

[Falcon]

Falcon u got the facts on mixed up dude.

Uh, hardly.

When Axl was gonna work with Moby it was before he was mainstream and world famous. it was before his big album *cant remember the title but the album he did the song with Gwen Stefani*

Moby was a force on the worldwide music scene as early as 1992, working with such artists as Erasure, Brian Eno, The Prodigy, Pet Shop Boys and The B52's long before Axl ever gave him a call.

And again for the record, I'm not thrilled about the Pharrell talk. Beyond that I'll avoid the close minded approach, maybe give it a listen before I dismiss it and rush to judgement with cries of sell out..

[D]

Dont get me wrong, Im sure Ill probably love the Pharrell combo but its still sellin out no matter how great it is.

[speed-stone]

the pharell "combo"? do you mean "collabo"?

[Falcon]

Dont get me wrong, Im sure Ill probably love the Pharrell combo but its still sellin out no matter how great it is.

I see where you're coming and respect it, I just don't think "selling out" is a relevent term in this situation.?

I find limiting one's collaborative choices under the guise of keeping musical intergrity much more of a "sell out" than trying someone that might be considered too mainstream by a certain sect of the a quick to judge fanbase.

[Here Today...]

ok well now suppossedly some of gnrs songs have a "hip hop beat" , but im sure thats fine and everyone is going to love it right?   

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=29670.0

but pharrell and vr? thats horrible right?

[oldgunsfan]

Think about Aerosmith and the re-make of Walk this Way with the rappers (forgot their name). That worked well and spurred Aerosmith's comeback. Not that VR needs a comeback, but the point is that cross-fertilization of music styles can work and be successful.

I've always hated Aerosmith for that, they do everything to be succesful, whatever they have to do for it. Whatever happened to making good music, sell or not? Yeah, with VR too, it can be succesful, but what about the "real fans" who are in it for the music(not the ones who speak to cellphone while "listening" to music)?
Too many bands nowdays goes on just for the succes.

Actually, it wasn't Aerosmith that approached Run DMC but Run DMC that approached Aerosmith about re-doing walk this way, so to say Aerosmith would do anything to be succesful in this specific case would be inaccurate. 

[tomass74]

Think about Aerosmith and the re-make of Walk this Way with the rappers (forgot their name). That worked well and spurred Aerosmith's comeback. Not that VR needs a comeback, but the point is that cross-fertilization of music styles can work and be successful.

I've always hated Aerosmith for that, they do everything to be succesful, whatever they have to do for it. Whatever happened to making good music, sell or not? Yeah, with VR too, it can be succesful, but what about the "real fans" who are in it for the music(not the ones who speak to cellphone while "listening" to music)?
Too many bands nowdays goes on just for the succes.

As classicsgunsfan said..  The whole thing was Rick Rubins idea and the song was on a Run DMC record. Also, Aerosmith may have done soem questionable things in there 36 year career..  But they don't do everything to be "successful"..  There last two releases were just the opposite actually.. One was a pretty kick ass Blues cover album composed mostly of songs that no one heard of and it was great... Their last release was also pretty cool. It was a live disc with some rare tracks on it... And their last tour was just insane playing 90% songs from the 70's....

[moreblack]

All this bickering goes nowhere. How about you listen to their first song/single/sample that they put out and decide if it's for you or not? It's pointless to bitch about a sound you've heard they're trying, but may or may not even materialize. Doesn't matter who is producing as long as the songs are good.

[DMJ]

agh get a life pets