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« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2006, 08:29:09 AM »

Yeah, some songs during '02 Axl's voice was great, but some songs just sounded dreadful vocally (november rain, ycbm). 
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« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2006, 09:41:52 AM »

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Recreating RIR stage in some hangar in LA is a waste of money for everyone.

Once again everyone around here runs their mouth like they have any idea what's going on. This is exactly what happens before a tour. It's called 'dress rehearsal' in the theatre world. Do you think they just rehearse in some practice space then go out on tour and see the stage setup the first night they walk out there? That's retarded. You would have a bunch of burning GnR members running around as they got blasted by flash pots they didn't know existed. And before you tell me I'm wrong my roommate is a production manager for an off-Broadway tour so I've seen a lot of this stuff in action.

What happens is this: there are band rehearsals which take place away from the tech crew and the stage and lighting designers. When the band feels well rehearsed and the stage show is ready there are dress rehearsals where then band rehearses the show on the stage (ie: in a large production studio or hangar, etc.) so that the band can get a feel for the stage (ie: figure out where the fire is going to be so they don't get burned), they can get their ears used to the sound on the new stage, the crew can figure out how to break down and set up the stage, the sound guys can figure out where to put monitors and amps/test the sound equipment, and the whole organization can do a 'dry run' through the whole production.

Do you seriously think that the crew just gets a set on instructions the first day and starts putting shit up sight unseen? Do you really think the band just sees the whole stage show the first night the go out and play? Prepping for a major tour is a huge multi-step process.
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« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2006, 09:50:40 AM »

Luigi, I live in Sherman Oaks, and Mike, sadly, peole here in L.A. don't like Axl.  All you hear (for the most part) is the upcoming FALL OUT BOY concert.  Oh boy, I can hardly wait hihi  Axl probably rehearses at night, don't ya think?

The 2002 tour proves that Axl doesn't rehearse at all... The old gunners members used to rehearse without Axl, and his quality of vocal on the 2002 tour was awful overall... I am betting he doesn't rehearse with the band... they just play the songs as they're supposed to, and Axl turns up at the gig.  I'm confident of that.


I completely disagree with your assessment of Axl's vocals on the 2002 tour.  His voice sounded far stronger and healthier than it did during most of the Illusion tour.

As far as Axl not rehearsing with the band, he admitted to that during the 01-01-01 show.  It's not like they need him there to run through the songs, anyway.

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i agree with you, scom at rir3 was the best ive ever seen it done.
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« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2006, 09:58:34 AM »

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Once again everyone around here runs their mouth like they have any idea what's going on. This is exactly what happens before a tour. It's called 'dress rehearsal' in the theatre world.

dress rehearsals happen later on in the programme....not immediatelly.

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What happens is this: there are band rehearsals which take place away from the tech crew and the stage and lighting designers.

those are the ones I'm talking about.

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When the band feels well rehearsed and the stage show is ready there are dress rehearsals where then band rehearses the show on the stage (ie: in a large production studio or hangar, etc.) so that the band can get a feel for the stage (ie: figure out where the fire is going to be so they don't get burned), they can get their ears used to the sound on the new stage, the crew can figure out how to break down and set up the stage, the sound guys can figure out where to put monitors and amps/test the sound equipment, and the whole organization can do a 'dry run' through the whole production.

this usually happens two to three weeks before the production opens. until then, artists, dancers, and performers work in separate spaces....it entirely depends on the production crew themselves...how professional and fast they are...the sooner they finish the staging, the sooner they can start dress rehearsals...if they're using the '02 stage, then they could have easily been rehearsing with some elements from it already.

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Do you seriously think that the crew just gets a set on instructions the first day and starts putting shit up sight unseen?

nope, never said that.


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Prepping for a major tour is a huge multi-step process.

exactly.
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« Reply #84 on: March 30, 2006, 10:16:53 AM »

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying... he CAN'T sing very well live... however... he puts on a fucking incredible show.... the 90's Illusions shows are regarded as having some of the greatest live gigs ever ... and Axl still shows he's got energy on stage... but my beef wasn't with how good a show he puts on, or how much enoyment he gives... they were with the awful problems he has with his voice that would be rectified with practice with the band!

Whatever problems you think he has with his voice would not be rectified by practicing with the band.  How would that help his voice?  What would help anyone's voice is doing vocal exercises, getting plenty of rest and just taking care of yourself in general.  Practicing with the band is entirely separate issue.  That would help the performances of the songs, if anything.  Not whatever vocal issues he may or may not have.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.  I just happen to think his voice sounded great from the very first opening scream in Jungle at the 01-01-01 show to the last performance at MSG in 2002.

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« Reply #85 on: March 30, 2006, 10:43:10 AM »

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying... he CAN'T sing very well live... however... he puts on a fucking incredible show.... the 90's Illusions shows are regarded as having some of the greatest live gigs ever ... and Axl still shows he's got energy on stage... but my beef wasn't with how good a show he puts on, or how much enoyment he gives... they were with the awful problems he has with his voice that would be rectified with practice with the band!

Whatever problems you think he has with his voice would not be rectified by practicing with the band.  How would that help his voice?  What would help anyone's voice is doing vocal exercises, getting plenty of rest and just taking care of yourself in general.  Practicing with the band is entirely separate issue.  That would help the performances of the songs, if anything.  Not whatever vocal issues he may or may not have.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.  I just happen to think his voice sounded great from the very first opening scream in Jungle at the 01-01-01 show to the last performance at MSG in 2002.

Ali

well.....   you`re exxagerating a little now....

his voice sucked at the vma`s (madagascar) for example ok

but in general you`re totally right. his voice was fine. however he was out of breath on many songs.....
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