IS CD "DOOMED" by expectations

[The Dog]

I think it all depends on what your expectations are.  Will it go platinum?  I think its pretty safe to say "YES".

My expectations sales wise are more then ContraBand, less then UYI's. 

Music wise, I'm sure I'll dig it - not sure about the average listener though.  Will be very interesting.  The material will speak for itself though....if its a good song it won't matter who is singing, who is playing guitar or what the name of the band is or how long its been since the last album. 
I find when it comes to music, its the sound that matters most in the long run.  All the glitz and glam can make something appear to sound good or be popular, but that kind of fame is fleeting.  All the big GNR hits are still in the publics conscience b/c they are GOOD songs. 

Its like when U2 went from Joshua Tree to Achtung Baby....pretty different sound and look for the band, but it didn't matter b/c the songs were still amazing.....the music is what mattered.

[providman]

?It will not be groundbreaking

Listen to Better again. Name me one other song like it that has a catchy pop vibe and then turns into a kick ass metal jam.

"Just" by Radiohead

Hey, I know it's 10 years old but it popped into my head, and you did say name 1.

I have to admit though, "Better" is a tremendous song, best thing I've heard Axl do with the new group(s) so far.

[jameslofton29]

?It will not be groundbreaking

Listen to Better again. Name me one other song like it that has a catchy pop vibe and then turns into a kick ass metal jam.

"Just" by Radiohead

I've never heard that song.

[providman]

?It will not be groundbreaking

Listen to Better again. Name me one other song like it that has a catchy pop vibe and then turns into a kick ass metal jam.

"Just" by Radiohead

I've never heard that song.

Well expand your horizons then friend! There's more to life than GnR!

Do yourself a favor & get "The Bends".

[killingvector]

I have feared this for a long time now and after hearing the songs I am really concerned.

When I first heard Better I was very disappointed, when I heard TWAT, I was very disappointed.

I realized the reason for this was because My expectations are so high, its like i was expecting songs and music that I had never heard before.

there are really no riffs, the guitar playing is ok nothing earth shattering. lyrically there isnt a whole lot of new ground being broke.


I realized though that the songs are great its just my expectations are so high that im not sure if my expectations could ever be met by anything.

I am very tolerant though and realized what i was doing which is why I can now fully appreciate these songs and love em like no other.

problem is, ive learned that most arent as tolerant as i am.

So do u feel CD is probably DOOMED by high expectations and cause of the mystique?

I found myself comparing the guitar playing to Slash immediately and I dont wanna start a Slash vs NewGNR debate but  i couldnt help but wonder how much better the songs would be.

Initial reactions are trickly; I have found the songs that mattered the most to me took a few listens to sink into my consciousness. This has happened with TWAT.

i also think alot of the problems with TWAT is the low quality sound of the demo; there is orchestration there but it is hard to hear. The studio version will definately clear up those problems.

I really have no problems with expectations because all of my expectations have been met so far. TWAT and Better are incredible songs, heavy in meaning and sound. I thoroughly enjoy the vocal melody and lyrics. Robin and Bucket have both had their moments of brilliance as well. I now hope to hear Brain go wild on one of these tracks.

[NickNasty]

People have already said that they havent heard anything that is on par with WTTJ,PC<SCOM etc etc but the thing is, those songs have been in our conscienceness for almost 20 years, so its impossible for something to capture that right away.

People expecting AFD type stuff are gonna hate this though but i think it is amazing. u cant compare it with any of the previous stuff though, its like comparing a lion to a bear, its a completely different animal and i hope people realize that.

Right on- that's why i feel personally this will be the most polarizing record (in terms of reaction) that will have come out in the last decade. You will see a sharp distinction between fans/critics/general rock fans who are able to get past the fact that this is a different band and those who can't. we're already seeing it with the demos! But axl, from his january comments, clearly understands this-and appears ready to let the work speak and let the chips fall where they may.

[JB9988]

Actually i think that it may meet the sales of UYI and sell as many if not more then uyi did they day it came out. More and more ppl are listening to gnr everyday and peple are still just finding out about AFD so i think CD will be fuckin insanely HUGE!

[The Dog]

Actually i think that it may meet the sales of UYI and sell as many if not more then uyi did they day it came out. More and more ppl are listening to gnr everyday and peple are still just finding out about AFD so i think CD will be fuckin insanely HUGE!

I would be more then happy to be wrong in this case

[Gunner80]

For me it's either going to be great or bad. Unlike D, I'm not obsessed with an album.

[Megaguns]

I work on the theory that a band is only as good as their guitarists. Therefore i expect it to be pretty damn good.

[88 Days]

I work on the theory that a band is only as good as their guitarists. Therefore i expect it to be pretty damn good.

good luck with that

[Naupis]

You will see a sharp distinction between fans/critics/general rock fans who are able to get past the fact that this is a different band and those who can't.

I don't think that is a very realistic expectation given that Axl has fought so hard to tell anyone who will listen that this IS Guns N' Roses.

The General Public would tell you that if you want to be thought of as your own entity and not compared to the old band, calling yourself Guns N' Roses probably isn't the best way to ask people not to look at you with a certain colored pair of glasses on.

Axl knew that was going to be a problem, so if GNR is doomed to never get out from under the shadow of the old band, he has no one to blame but himself. It is kind of stupid to call yourself GNR and then get upset/defensive when people complain you don't sound like GNR anymore.