Piracy Industry does help GNR THESE DAYS!

[AxlRoseVen]

I did a thesis paper on the subject in college. Did you guys know that for the largest of bands-Metallicaesque get between 1 & 2 dollars per album? And that is not for each individual in the band. That is the band as a whole. so if a record goes platinum, and their are five members, each would only make about 250k. And that is for the biggest bands. My point is simply that the money in music is not from record sales. it is from touring. So, basically if a band has enough buzz or popularity, they can make grips of cash out on the road. And how does a band get popularity? by being played in as many mediums as possible-cds, radio, videos, and downloads. So when metallica goes out against Napster back in 00, and says Napster is taking food out of their mouths, they are being fed that by the Record companies, b/c it is the record companies that are taking the hit. And what do record companies have to do with a band? They are responsible for putting money into producing a record, promoting it, and distributing it. Well what would happen if the artists could do this themselves? The record companies would become obsolete, and go out of business. Well guess what Geffen, they can. With Pro-tools, recording has never been easier. they can promote with their own website, and distribute it themselves through that site or on the road. Now, instead of each member getting a buck at the most, they get between 4-5. All they have to do is generate buzz, and the cycle starts all over again. Interesting huh. Watch and see, in 10 years record companies will cease to exist.

ok, i see ya r a smart boy to answer this way but tell me? if we'll SELL our own albums/stuff/videos,etc,etc by the internet service while we get sittin' our at homes so other persons (who also use the fucking internet) will GET our merchindise FOR FREE TOO? cuz as well they're gonna use programs(like Kazaa, Napster, or whatever)? to DOWNLOAD every kind of file...hell!... I notice we n' the Show Business have no way to face a fucking DESTRUCTION SOONER OR LATER!? ?

[bucketman]

good point, Axlrose ven. Hopefully by that point, the artist will have made enough money that by the time they have generated enough pr by themselve. they wont count on the record sales as much. And if you figure 1 out of 10 might download a cd versus paying for one, they probably would spend 50-75 bucks for a concert ticket so you havent lost anything by the stolen cd, only gained an extra fan. Plus if they are like me, and start to LOVE that particular band, they will have enough respect for them to buy the next album in lieu of stealing it.

[Scree]

it was pretty amusing back when UYIs were first released. Slash said in an interview that you could buy one and thier friend could buy one and then they could make each other a copy of the album the other didn't have. A day or 2 later the press were saying the record company didn't like this and had a word with Slash   

as for todays "piracy", I'll download an album.. if I like 1 or 2 songs I head to iTunes.. if I like most of the songs I buy the album from a music store.. if I think the whole album is shit, it goes into my trash. It is just that simple. So yes, the good bands are helped by this so called "piracy" and the shit is left by the wayside.

[AxlRoseVen]

it was pretty amusing back when UYIs were first released. Slash said in an interview that you could buy one and thier friend could buy one and then they could make each other a copy of the album the other didn't have. A day or 2 later the press were saying the record company didn't like this and had a word with Slash? ?

as for todays "piracy", I'll download an album.. if I like 1 or 2 songs I head to iTunes.. if I like most of the songs I buy the album from a music store.. if I think the whole album is shit, it goes into my trash. It is just that simple. So yes, the good bands are helped by this so called "piracy" and the shit is left by the wayside.

    So do ya think V.R fans go out n' buy V.R?s stuff these days? c'mon dude, some people might download their songs illegally, Maybe!     .... so V.R ain?t that special to stole their music that way...greatest rock stars are the only one to be rated by the internet service, that's all! ...Cyndi Louper is rated by the internet more than them 

[Krash]

I always thought the whole internet music piracy thing whent like this.....

1. If your a talented band/artist.... It's free advertising and folks will want more.
Especially in a case like GnR where there has been such a drought for new material.

2. If your a one hit wonder who sells image over quality music people are gonna download your one hit and then hit the trail anyhow.  Meaning if your like the dudes in Hanson your screwed, cuz the second the kids download the only tune they cared about that ya made your not gonna make your 2 red cents.

[AxlRoseVen]

I always thought the whole internet music piracy thing whent like this.....

1. If your a talented band/artist.... It's free advertising and folks will want more.
Especially in a case like GnR where there has been such a drought for new material.

2. If your a one hit wonder who sells image over quality music people are gonna download your one hit and then hit the trail anyhow.? Meaning if your like the dudes in Hanson your screwed, cuz the second the kids download the only tune they cared about that ya made your not gonna make your 2 red cents.

I?m really sure Piracy makes you famous more than ever, it shall make you reach new highs that no one else got before but YOU'LL JUST GONNA BE A CELEBRITY WITHOUT MONEY in the end, no matter if record companies disappear at all someday, no matter if you can show your fucking product by the internet while you're sittin' at your own home cuz everyone?s gonna STEAL it by this same way TOO, that's it....? ? piracy will destroy every kind of company in the world sooner or later if the law won't do a thing SOMADAY !!!? ?

[younggunner]

on the 2002 tour...i think it was in Toronto when Axl said he had to talk about Lars. I bet he was gonna go into the Napster deal. It would have been interesting to hear how Axl feels about it.

[AxlRoseVen]

on the 2002 tour...i think it was in Toronto when Axl said he had to talk about Lars. I bet he was gonna go into the Napster deal. It would have been interesting to hear how Axl feels about it.

    you should know Axl insulted the internet service from rock in rio 2001 in front of the world!!!! , i know the guy got a lot of new enemies since then (specially the hackers!)     but honestly Axl should thank to the websites n' illegal downloads just cuz this way GNR keeps alive after the band ain?t give news, new stuff, official files, albums, etc, etc, since 1994!!!!
...so there r 2 options :

-Axl is a fucking liar cuz he?s sure he gets more fame by internet 
-the guy didn't have a real idea 'bout the meanin' of being rated these days by kazaa, napters, whatever! 

[younggunner]

He bashed the Internet because people try to stalk him and give out his personal info. Im sure Axl doesnt have a problem with the Internet. WHo cares if he does or doesnt anyways.

also I think Axl appreciates sites like these. And when he says "support group" in the Bucket Press release I believe he is referring to us, the diehards who send out thousands of emails to anyone who might be linked to the band....from pizza boy to bandmembers

[AxlRoseVen]

He bashed the Internet because people try to stalk him and give out his personal info. Im sure Axl doesnt have a problem with the Internet. WHo cares if he does or doesnt anyways.

also I think Axl appreciates sites like these. And when he says "support group" in the Bucket Press release I believe he is referring to us, the diehards who send out thousands of emails to anyone who might be linked to the band....from pizza boy to bandmembers

r ya sure? if Axl hates lies too much so he had to refers to ?that? specifically, not to bash the internet that way at all!, Axl just knew how to lie that night like Hollywood business always does 

[younggunner]

i honestly have no idea what your talking about lol

[AxlRoseVen]

i honestly have no idea what your talking about lol

something tells me you don't wanna admit that Axl lied to the world that shocking night at rock in rio 2001 

[younggunner]

lied about what

[AxlRoseVen]

lied about what

I supposed you've been reading' our lines frequently to reply at but I see you've just been answering like a real incoherent guy who doesn't know what we're talkin' 'bout!...we've said Axl hates the internet service cuz it supports the piracy but other facts make us notice Axl just fakes on it ?, did you think Axl lied 'bout He n' Mickey Mouse drink coffee at his home at nights then?? 

[younggunner]

did you think Axl lied 'bout He n' Mickey Mouse drink coffee at his home at nights then?

Yes I do think he was lieing about that because he said he loved Pluto better.

[AxlRoseVen]

did you think Axl lied 'bout He n' Mickey Mouse drink coffee at his home at nights then?

Yes I do think he was lieing about that because he said he loved Pluto better.

Oh ok, that's great but let me tell ya that Disneyland hates piracy too so be a good Disney fan n' keep off that kind of crime, got it?? ?

[AxlRoseVen]

on the 2002 tour...i think it was in Toronto when Axl said he had to talk about Lars. I bet he was gonna go into the Napster deal. It would have been interesting to hear how Axl feels about it.

    Izzy Straddling has a new album that was made like a fucking special edition, the guy said there are 975 copies only 'round the world but who cares 'bout anyway? the album is called LIKE A DOG, but these days everyone gets it from the fucking internet FOR FREE, it isn't amazing?