2006 tour questions

[Jonathan]

WHEN they tour, it'll be fuckin' huge! ?mabye not as big as the UYI tour, but a lot longer than the CD tour a few years back

 

It will be bigger, much bigger..

[nesquick]

WHEN they tour, it'll be fuckin' huge! ?mabye not as big as the UYI tour, but a lot longer than the CD tour a few years back

 

It will be bigger, much bigger..

Stop dreaming.

[leesixxrose]

Who says that he is going to tour in 2006?? didnt we say that about 2005??? 2004, 2003???

[Luigi]

2006 Tour will be great 

[jameslofton29]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

[badapple81]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

Well I don't see how he was 'out of his element' playing arena shows after playing to 200,000+ fans at Rio. And 'baby steps'? Playing 200,000+ fans after one 'open rehearsal' warm up show and YEARS out of the public eye takes some courage!!

You have no idea why the tour cancel.. why Axl did those things.. so don't assume Axl couldn't get used to that type of atmosphere etc. It's not 'obviously', it's your opinion/take on things.

[jameslofton29]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

Well I don't see how he was 'out of his element' playing arena shows after playing to 200,000+ fans at Rio. And 'baby steps'? Playing 200,000+ fans after one 'open rehearsal' warm up show and YEARS out of the public eye takes some courage!!

You have no idea why the tour cancel.. why Axl did those things.. so don't assume Axl couldn't get used to that type of atmosphere etc. It's not 'obviously', it's your opinion/take on things.

You dont seem to understand. Playing one or two shows, regardless of how many people are there, is a completely different thing than the daily grind of a world tour. Of course it took courage to do HOB and Rio. No one is disputing that. But when you go from the internal pressures of HOB and Rio, and then go to the internal AND external pressures of a world tour, you run into major problems. So you want Axl to just 'get in the ring' and immediately start a huge tour? Well, you better buy tickets to one of the first shows if you want to see them.

[badapple81]

Of course a tour is a different thing to some one off shows, I agree with you there.

I guess despite of everything, I like to have faith in Axl that a tour when CD is released will be a success.

[jameslofton29]

Of course a tour is a different thing to some one off shows, I agree with you there.

I guess despite of everything, I like to have faith in Axl that a tour when CD is released will be a success.

I want it to be hugely successful also. I'm sure Axl's "inner demons" are wrestling with hopes of redemption. Obviously an album selling millions of copies would be a HUGE step towards that goal, but a successful world tour would guarantee it. I just think he should get his feet wet before jumping in the water. For his sake, and for the fans who never seen him live and pray for the chance. I would like to see him "on top of the world" like the dreamers on this site. But it cant happen the way you guys envision it. He has to slowly adjust to being in the spotlight again, and get used to not only performing on a regular basis, but also get used to constant media attention. The media/paparazzi culture is much different than it was in the early 90's. From the second he comes back he will be under a giant microscope, and he basically has one last shot at redemption. I hope he does it right this time.

[mikegiuliana]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

very true bro.. I feel axl needs to be selective and take his time.. The man is out of the lime light for years so taking on a tour with loads of shows just might not be in his best interest today before becoming over whelming.. I think it was smart playing festivals first but not being stuck in some longer term grind of shows..

To anyone thinking logically you would know if the album came out nad axl and company released a year worth of tour dates after being dormant that it would be very difficult to fufill... Not for the band, just axl..

So yes baby steps, wether in front of 20,000 or 150,ooo he should take his time and work himself back into the light..

[chineseblues]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

Who says he is "unable" to leave his house? Ever think maybe just maybe he doesn't want any media attention or anything while he is working on the album? It's pretty damn clear to me why he does the things he does, he just don't want to promote himself or the band yet. If you can't see that then maybe you are a fan of the wrong guy....

[jameslofton29]

Mike makes a very good point that isn't really open to debate. When a person, whether its Axl or a regular person, suffers from mental issues, they dont go from being unable to leave the house to immediately cruising all over the country having a good time. Its a simple fact. I'm not saying a tour is impossible. But if he attempts it, he will have to take "baby steps" if he really wants to be successful. I believe this was the main reason for the 2002 derailment. In 2001 at the HOB, he seemed happy and was obviously enjoying himself. Same thing with Rio, but to a slightly lesser extent, probably because of the attention of the large festival. HOB and Rio were "baby steps", and Axl could handle the situations. But when the 2002 tour started, he was out of his element and actually seemed bitter. And this bitterness came out in no shows, riots, periodic rants about members who are now irrelevant to GNR, walking off stage mid-song, and making promises that he knew he couldnt keep. It was obviously doomed to failure. If he wants to be successful again, he's gonna have to go the HOB and Rio route(other shows too) until he can get used to that type of atmosphere again. If he immediately starts another Chinese Democracy tour, expect a repeat of 2002.

Who says he is "unable" to leave his house? Ever think maybe just maybe he doesn't want any media attention or anything while he is working on the album? It's pretty damn clear to me why he does the things he does, he just don't want to promote himself or the band yet. If you can't see that then maybe you are a fan of the wrong guy....

Stop nitpicking. You know what I meant. Lets say he drives to 7-11 and buys some chili dogs and a big gulp, it still doesn't disprove my point. Its "pretty damn clear" why he does what he does? Then please enlighten us so we can all stop "speculating".