Why No Guitarist??

[HK-47]

To anyone who wasn't already a fan, or at least aware, of Buckethead he will forever be the freak guitarist who was in GNR for five minutes, he will always carry that stigma..? ? ?

....only to people who next to nothing about music outside of gnr.

That's plainly not true. I'm sure that you could round up vast crowds of people who give less than a shit about GNR but recognize Buckethead as described above because they saw him on the VMAs or some other, equally worthless, MTV crapathon. Frankly, Buckethead would have been better off joining any other band in the world, and GNR would have done better to hire any other guitar player.

[jarmo]

Buckethead talk goes in the right section.

If you want to continue this, take it there.




/jarmo

[Saul]

Saul;
I didn't need the Buckethead biography and geography lesson, but thanks all the same.

I think it's better to list facts and history then assumtions. Sue me.

likely his insistance on maintaining his false outlandish persona, caused his position in the band to become untenable.

I doubt it. It's not like buckethead was asked to leave the band. he quit. I dont think his characther , on or offstage , mattered much to the only person in GNR who it needs to be concerned , Mr.Rose. What stinson , dizzy , finck or fortus thinks about any of it means squat. At the end of the day it's axl's vote which veto's anyone elses. And axl seemed quite confident and proud of his new guitar player.

So, at the point at which Buckethead was at the peak of his ability to communicate to a new audience what he and his music were about he instead rode that opportunity to a massive anticlimax in full view of the public.

haha , dude thats just drama right there. Every night on tour buckethead showed the crowd what he and his music was all about. every night during his ten minute solo spot he tore it up , hit the crowd with some of his classic material , his moves and handed out toys to them. THAT is buckethead , some "got it" some didnt. Those who did are still fans , those who didnt get it really dont matter to me , the fan and to him , the man.

To anyone who wasn't already a fan, or at least aware, of Buckethead he will forever be the freak guitarist who was in GNR for five minutes, he will always carry that stigma.

Oh well. If nothing happens pretty soon in GNR land all of the current members will have a stigma as being part of the best cover band of all time for 5 minutes.

While it may be that they are the ones missing out on Buckethead's music it's Buckethead who has lost the most in terms of getting his music heard, and that is by far the most important thing - certainly more important than his choice of headwear or facemask.     

I think his music is being heard by those that matter and appreciate it for what it is. Most GNR fans arent going to "get" Bucketheads music and Buckethead the person so  who cares? Music will find those who will enjoy it. And those that enjoy the music apreciate it and the artist , regardless of how they dress , look , act .. on and offstage. Thats all that matters IMHO.

TWICE WITH THE SLEDGE IF YOU LIKE HEADCHEESE! 

[killingvector]

To anyone who wasn't already a fan, or at least aware, of Buckethead he will forever be the freak guitarist who was in GNR for five minutes, he will always carry that stigma..     

....only to people who next to nothing about music outside of gnr.

That's plainly not true. I'm sure that you could round up vast crowds of people who give less than a shit about GNR but recognize Buckethead as described above because they saw him on the VMAs or some other, equally worthless, MTV crapathon. Frankly, Buckethead would have been better off joining any other band in the world, and GNR would have done better to hire any other guitar player.

why cater to the ignorant? I know tremendous music fans who recognize tommy as being a Mats alum, Finck as an NIN alum, and Bucket as a praxis, C2b3 member. Your explanation is shortsighted.

[Saul]

To anyone who wasn't already a fan, or at least aware, of Buckethead he will forever be the freak guitarist who was in GNR for five minutes, he will always carry that stigma..     

....only to people who next to nothing about music outside of gnr.

That's plainly not true. I'm sure that you could round up vast crowds of people who give less than a shit about GNR but recognize Buckethead as described above because they saw him on the VMAs or some other, equally worthless, MTV crapathon. Frankly, Buckethead would have been better off joining any other band in the world, and GNR would have done better to hire any other guitar player.

why cater to the ignorant? I know tremendous music fans who recognize tommy as being a Mats alum, Finck as an NIN alum, and Bucket as a praxis, C2b3 member. Your explanation is shortsighted.

and plenty more reconize brain as being a former primus alum.

[damnthehaters]

So many of my friends didn't even know who the hell Buckethead was until he joined GNR.  It's that plain and simple.  Maybe there are a lot of people out there who knew Buckethead before he joined GNR, but you don't speak for everyone.

[Saul]

So many of my friends didn't even know who the hell Buckethead was until he joined GNR.  It's that plain and simple.  Maybe there are a lot of people out there who knew Buckethead before he joined GNR, but you don't speak for everyone.

I dont even get your point.    why would your friends know who buckethead is/was before he joined gnr? Like I've said many times , Buckethead isnt and doesnt try to be a mainstream artist. His fanbase was born from word of mouth and people seeing him open for other bands and getting into him that way.

May I ask , how many of your friends knew who richard fortus was before he joined GNR? Or how about chris pittman?

[darkmonth]

Buckethead was by far the most talented gnr guitarist; his shoes will be tough to fill. Axl needs to find someone who can be iconic.

No, he was by far the most technically proficient.  Talented yes...  but technically talented more than anything else.  Robin's solos are generally more thought out than BH's and of course you all know my stance on Slash

[mick]

Why would there be any need for another guitarist? There are obviously no plans for Guns n' Roses to ever do anything again.

As far as I can see it, Rose has retired and the rest of the 'band' are saying they are still in Guns merely to promote their careers.

The most realistic and accurate post in this thread.

[RnT]

Why would there be any need for another guitarist? There are obviously no plans for Guns n' Roses to ever do anything again.

As far as I can see it, Rose has retired and the rest of the 'band' are saying they are still in Guns merely to promote their careers.

wow
that?s a good point or view
 

[Saul]

Buckethead was by far the most talented gnr guitarist; his shoes will be tough to fill. Axl needs to find someone who can be iconic.

No, he was by far the most technically proficient.  Talented yes...  but technically talented more than anything else.  Robin's solos are generally more thought out than BH's and of course you all know my stance on Slash

You must be kidding?    If you call bending notes sharp and/or flat in relation to the actual key the song is in then yeah , I guess I'll agree. But IMHO I'm glad that buckethead actually put effort into playing the solo's slash wrote atleast somewhat close if not dead on most of the time to the way they were originally recorded while throwing in some "bucketness" that was still IN KEY.

Personally I have no faith in robins abilities to play the solo's of the old material. In the studio and with his own material he may be a master and create some stuff that will wow us , but his performaces on the failed 2002 tour left ALOT to be desired.

[Luigi]

why no Guitarist?,  cause there is none . The future of GNR looks slim guys. No new news means no CD. Who gives a shit about Buckethead, he's doing his thing. Axl hasn't said shit, so that what we get, we're great fans,  Axl should at least give us something, shit its not the stockmarket.

[Twisted Nerve 85]

A lead Singer,3 guitarists,a bassist,2 keyboard players, and a drummer is way too much that makes 8 fuckin members, HELLO SLIPKNOT 

[jameslofton29]

If Axl's vision of GNR is to have 3 guitarists, and now there is only 2, its only logical that he would be looking for someone else if he still has aspirations for CD.

[jimmythegent]

Buckethead was by far the most talented gnr guitarist; his shoes will be tough to fill. Axl needs to find someone who can be iconic.

No, he was by far the most technically proficient.? Talented yes...? but technically talented more than anything else.? Robin's solos are generally more thought out than BH's and of course you all know my stance on Slash

You must be kidding?? ? If you call bending notes sharp and/or flat in relation to the actual key the song is in then yeah , I guess I'll agree. But IMHO I'm glad that buckethead actually put effort into playing the solo's slash wrote atleast somewhat close if not dead on most of the time to the way they were originally recorded while throwing in some "bucketness" that was still IN KEY.

Personally I have no faith in robins abilities to play the solo's of the old material. In the studio and with his own material he may be a master and create some stuff that will wow us , but his performaces on the failed 2002 tour left ALOT to be desired.

agreed there - I am looking forward to hearing Robins own creations, however i thought he did a fairly average job with the old Guns material. I dont expect him to rip it off note for note, or even sound like Slash. But the fact remains that he butchered alot of those classic leads through clumsy and uncouth playing, BH did a much more admirable job with that material.

I will say that Robin played the intro to Sweet Child quite nicely though (which although sounds an easy piece , is surprisingly difficult to play smoothly and with feeling)

[HK-47]

A lead Singer,3 guitarists,a bassist,2 keyboard players, and a drummer is way too much that makes 8 fuckin members, HELLO SLIPKNOT?

Miles Davis' touring band frequently had between six and eight musicians throughout the 70's, it did his music no harm. During the mid-50's the Miles Davis Sextet (that's six members, kids) crafted some of the greatest music ever recorded. I think it's safe to say that the number of musicians on hand has far less bearing on the music than the quality of the musicians, so as far as I'm concerned GNR can have as many guitarists as they desire, as long as they're a step or two up from Robin Finck.