Buckethead's importance in the guitar playing?

[Buddha_Master]

Yea Buckethead needs to come back. He took GNR that much further.

Oh, and to directly relate this back to topic. I was listening to a newer version of Patience. IT is a real clean recording from one of their shows in 2002. There is this really cool psychedelic almost water sound he is making so subtly, but it gives the song so much depth. That is just an example. This dude, is as talented a guitarist could ever hope to be. But he is also something more. He's experimental. He adds layers beyond just his shredds and riffs.

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Yea Buckethead needs to come back. He took GNR that much further.

Oh, and to directly relate this back to topic. I was listening to a newer version of Patience. IT is a real clean recording from one of their shows in 2002. There is this really cool psychedelic almost water sound he is making so subtly, but it gives the song so much depth. That is just an example. This dude, is as talented a guitarist could ever hope to be. But he is also something more. He's experimental. He adds layers beyond just his shredds and riffs.

How ya doing Buddha? Yeh I agree with you that some of BH guitar playing during the 02 shows was cool as fuck, his solo at London show I went to was brilliant but that seemed to be it, he was so uninspiring or cool up on stage. I don’t think he really fitted in at all. I ent saying that BH isnt cool in his own kind of way, but just didn’t seem to fit with the new Guns thing! Back in the day Slash would stamp his authority on to a show  and be pretty cool, and I think that the lads in the band now certainly do that especially Richard Fortus!

[nesquick]

estranged how did you find richard fortus on stage? because on my video bootlegs he is phenomenal. The perfect rythm guitar player (with Izzy) in my opinion.

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estranged how did you find richard fortus on stage? because on my video bootlegs he is phenomenal. The perfect rythm guitar player (with Izzy) in my opinion.

Hey

I just thought Richard was pretty fucking cool, he seemed to have a very distinct style of playing and always looked like he was really enjoying what he was doing. I am certainly not an expert on different guitarists, but he just seemed along with the rest of the band to be really into it, which was the only reason why I didnt think BH was right for the band cos he just stood there like a plank all show apart from his little robotics show!

[nesquick]

that's exactly what I think too. Buckethead didn't fit in GN'R, he was appart indeed. The band is more cohesive without him. It's more "a band" now than before.

[Slipdisc]

that's exactly what I think too. Buckethead didn't fit in GN'R, he was appart indeed. The band is more cohesive without him. It's more "a band" now than before.

Yeah right... nobody has seen the new band play live without him so that statement seems like utter BS. It's just you reaching for straws to reinforce your narrow-mindedness about what something SHOULD be.

-PEACE-

[Scabbie]

I don't think they should rerecord buckethead's parts for the sake of releasing something that is their own. I think it would make sense if his parts weren't any good and needed re-recording, but judging by Tommy's opinion and some of the fans on this board that isn't the case.

If there is a new guitarist, let him record any new parts that need adding, or hear him out if he can enhance the songs in a good way, but don't encourage more delays for the sake of not paying royalties or bitterness to Buckethead if you see what I mean.

I went to Leeds, and thought that BH played fine, but I didn't really like his presence. But without playing to many new songs its difficult to make a judgement.

But the concept of having a 'shredder' in GNR I don't think is a bad one. Kinda draws a line between old and new....although whoever the shredder is I think its important they have a feeling as opposed to just being a technical wizard.

I don't get this John 5 thing. I've got the Manson records, but is he really that good a guitarist?

[nesquick]

Yeah right... nobody has seen the new band play live without him so that statement seems like utter BS. It's just you reaching for straws to reinforce your narrow-mindedness about what something SHOULD be.

I have the right NOT to like Buckethead. I think I'm really not the only one. Most of GN'R fans didn't like him.
A band is also a human connexion, it's called FEELING.
if you don't understand that, you don't understand Rock n' Roll.

Peace (yeah indeed...)

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Yeah right... nobody has seen the new band play live without him so that statement seems like utter BS. It's just you reaching for straws to reinforce your narrow-mindedness about what something SHOULD be.

-PEACE-

Yeh whatever! Is this just to wind people up? Cos it sure dont seem constructive. Yeh correct we havent seen the new band play without BH but the point I think Im right in saying is, the rest of the band looked pretty fucking cool and like they were really into it, but BH just stood there like a bit of a plank, which is cool in his own kind of way but doesent really seem to fit into the Guns style really!

[Buddha_Master]

Yeah right... nobody has seen the new band play live without him so that statement seems like utter BS. It's just you reaching for straws to reinforce your narrow-mindedness about what something SHOULD be.

I have the right NOT to like Buckethead. I think I'm really not the only one. Most of GN'R fans didn't like him.
A band is also a human connexion, it's called FEELING.
if you don't understand that, you don't understand Rock n' Roll.

Peace (yeah indeed...)

Dude I respect you, but you cant throw around something like "Most fans didnt like Bucket" just to support your case with nothing to back it up. I actually think most did, but I cant say that with no facts. Maybe there was a poll on this site. If there wasnt that was probably a missed opportunity to get an idea of what fans here thought.

[nesquick]

I agree. and I would add if you told me to choose between buckethead or Fortus to form a Rock band, I would take  Fortus without a doubt.

[ppbebe]

if you don't understand that, you don't understand Rock n' Roll.

  Rock n? Roll is always somewhat against people?s Stereotype of "what something should BE".
It may not change a thing but rocks it and rolls it to make people wonder if it should be like what they?ve been thinking from their preconceived ideas. That?s why they call it Rock n? Roll, to my understanding.

[Gunner Fucker]

I never really liked BH. I think GNR is better off without him. As for his input playing live during the time he was in, I think it didn't add much, and made things messy.

[nesquick]

Rock n? Roll is always somewhat against people?s Stereotype of "what something should BE".

Rock n' Roll is exactly the opposite of what Buckethead is. Or I should rather say Buckethead is the total opposite of what Rock n' Roll is about.

I never really liked BH. I think GNR is better off without him

yes, definitely. The band is more cohesive and tigher. Now this is a Rock band. When Buckethead was in, it wasn't.
Buckethead is probably the biggest mistake in the whole GN'R History. Hopefully, he is gone. I will probably never understand why he was once in that band. Wrong guy!

[ppbebe]

Rock n? Roll is always somewhat against people?s Stereotype of "what something should BE".

Rock n' Roll is exactly the opposite of what Buckethead is. Or I should rather say Buckethead is the total opposite of what Rock n' Roll is about.

OK, then, Can you enlighten me how Rock n' Roll is totally opposite of what Buckethead is?
And what?s the Rock n' Roll about for you other than exhibition of looks and friendship? Reasonably as possible please. Ta!

[estranged.1098]

Great on Madagascar, The Blues, and ecspecially You Could Be Mine and Nightrain.

The Blues?

[BucketvsSlash]

buckethead provided the mood of the blues