Do We love Slash? [it's in the right section]

[Dayle1066]

No, I don't get your point, but fuck Slash, he can't go one article or interview without talkin shit about the new band.  If he thinks VR is so good, then he needs to shut the fuck up and just talk about them instead of dropping Axl's name everywhere.  CD will prove that as far as the writing goes Slash and Duff weren't the most important pieces, and it Contraband shows that without Axl, these guys would probably be still livin on the strip.
Just my opinion. I know I'm gonna get attacked.  Can't we all just get along?
 

I do love Slash, he was the one i liked the most in the band he inspired me to play guitar. My second favourite was Izzy, and the third was Axl. I don't understand people who hates Slash, 'cause he was one of the reasons why GN'R became popular, he is a Guitar God, he played on every released GN'R songs (except 2), so hating him and the others is very childish. You can love Axl without hating the others. Velvet Revolver is good, but not that great like GN'R was, just like the Nu-GN'R cannot be compared with the old band. When they'll have their records released we can judge whether it's good or genius, till then they proved nothing. I know that some on the board will bash CD and some will glorify it just based on their bias. I don't care, I'm tired of these 'Slash is a fuckin' bitch he is always talks shit about the new band'-panels - he never said anything negative about the new musicians, he's never said that Pittman looks like a guy from Village People, Buckethead is a bit strange, Fortus is an Izzy-clone and Robin Finck ruins his guitar parts. Maybe wasn't a nice thing saying that Nu-GN'R has only a couple of songs completed, but we don't know if it was right or not - I hope it wasn't. But compare what Slash said to the things Axl said about the old members - yeah, I know, Axl is a straight guy, he says what he thinks. Think it if you want. But if you listen to GN'R songs from the '85-'94 era, or the covers by Nu-GN'R, DON'T EVER CRITISIZE Slash'S, Duff's, Izzy's, Steven's and Matt's importance, otherwise you'll be a fool. If you like AFD, Lies, UYI, TSI, Sympathy, LE or the bootlegs, then you must like Slash & Co. 'cause they made those albums (with Axl).

PS: I wish the forum rules had a part that denying the old members contribution to te band is forbidden. But I know we live in a free world, and everybody has the right to be stupid.  

Maybe you misunderstood, I never said they didn't contribute, I said Axl was a bigger part of it than Duff, Slash and Matt.  Izzy was bigger than those three too.  Axl and Izzy were the main songwriting force behind GNR, period.  And it wasn't just the CD remark by Slash, IT'S EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE THAT HE'S IN.  I just got the new Guitar World and he even takes a stab at him there.  My point is, if he has this new band and all this "great" shit happening then drop the past and move forward, he just looks like an ass whenever he starts rippin people and especially when he starts talking about shit he has no clue about, like the status of CD.
Does that help.  Yes everybody does have the right to be stupid and they also have the right to be iliterate assholes.  

Im sorry SLASH should move on?? Slash isnt the one getting shit load of musicians playing old songs trying to relive past glories, slash has moved on. Good for Axl you know, he's working hard(apparently) on the new album. Think about this, he isn't Guns n Roses Axl is only 1/5. The GNR he is with today isn't GNR its an Axl Rose solo project. He may be using the name but he isnt Guns n Roses. Period.

[jarmo]

Think about this, he isn't Guns n Roses Axl is only 1/5. The GNR he is with today isn't GNR its an Axl Rose solo project. He may be using the name but he isnt Guns n Roses. Period.

He's not playing all the instruments by himself, there's a band there with him. It's called GN'R.


Get over it already.


/jarmo

[w.axlrose]

its just great to know Slash plays the guitar solos on every single gnr album released, of course we love him!

[Midnight]

Can anyone point me towards these "so called" interviews where Slash "supposedly" says something negative about the new line up?

Not once have I heard Slash say anything negative about the new line up, or even really comment on them at all.   The thing is Slash has moved on as has Axl.   It is certain fans who keep compairing the line ups and dissin' the ex/new members, with the help of their little "so and so said this, I have nothing to prove it but let's start dissin whoever anyway" posts.

I love Slash and always will.   I do not force others to like him, like who you want but there is no call to diss the guy because he is a legend and HELPED make Gn'R what they were.

[VolcomStone]

I agree, I have not read or heard anything by Slash where he blatantly insults or rants about the new GN'R.  There are the occasional evasive remarks and chuckles concerning Axl's new style, but that is all that he has resorted to in recent interviews.  And also, could it be that interviewers want to utilize the mysteriousness of Axl and his new band to appeal to the readers?  GN'R was the biggest band in the world during their heyday, and it's demise, due in part to the transformations attempted by it's eccentric frontman, is still a very hot topic in the music world.  Interviewers are always looking for a good article and if they can get Slash or any other past or present members of GN'R to give word about the new project, it would definitely not hurt.  So, get over it.  Axl is not Guns N' Roses.  Neither is Slash or the rest of the company.  Think of it as Led Zeppelin or Seinfeld.  In both examples, the individual musicians or actors/comedians (whichever the case), contributed to something that was profound, but when they all went their separate ways the new projects were never quite the same as their combinations once were.  I'm not saying that the new projects by the ex-Gunners are poor.  I love Velvet Revolver and I think that's what today's rock needs.  But even though it is 3/5 ex-Gunners (which far exceeds the new GN'R at 1/4 composition, counting Axl and Dizzy), it is still not Guns N' Roses.  Now, I know all of this has been said before, but why not reiterate it once again.  To all of you who think that Axl was and is Guns N' Roses, you need to step away from your shrines to the highly-misunderstood frontman and realize that the new line-up is dubbed GN'R merely because of a smart business ploy executed over 10 years ago, and for that reason alone.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Another contributing factor is that Slash is no longer on drugs.  Yes, this does effect the music.  

but this line..on drugs or not on drugs..does drugs inspire to compose better music..I wouldn't state that as a fact...although Oasis's best album 'the morning glory' was made by Noel being on drugs.

I didn't mean to say that being on drugs causes you to make better music.  But generally someone's music will sound drastically different when they're on drugs than when they're not.  It doesn't mean it will always be better or worse, but I think that being high on hard drugs will make your music sound a lot different.  As for whether or not it's better, that's up to the individual listener to decide.

[Music For Life]

He's not playing all the instruments by himself, there's a band there with him. It's called GN'R.

Get over it already.

/jarmo

good to know that there is people that think that just because it has the name it means the same thing.  its a shame that people think the way you do.  if you like the music axl is creating thats fine, nobody can tell you what music you can or cant like, but to think its gnr because the name is still under axls control is sickening.  

there is nothing in that band that has anything to do with gnr, not even axl, hes not the same anymore at all.  even if he was the same as he was back in the day it still wouldnt be gnr.

it really does make me sick that there are people out there as simple minded as to think that just becuase it says gnr that it means its gnr.  you know that its not gnr, but thats pretty lame argument you have..."it says gnr, so it must be"  how ridiculous is that.

[MoonMax]

 Axl is not Guns N' Roses.  Neither is Slash or the rest of the company.  Think of it as Led Zeppelin or Seinfeld.  In both examples, the individual musicians or actors/comedians (whichever the case), contributed to something that was profound, but when they all went their separate ways the new projects were never quite the same as their combinations once were.  

He's not playing all the instruments by himself, there's a band there with him. It's called GN'R.


Get over it already.


/jarmo

I didn't want to start the Axl/Slash war.  I just wanted to ask, how much do we need Slash now and how much of involvement he made in past days.
When it comes to The Rolling Stones, it's ofcourse that Mick and Kieth made it, thought there was also Brian Jones. In Guns N' Roses it's different a little bit. Will Axl make it without Izzy, I would ask neither then will he make it without Slash.

For now, Slash didn't offered me nothing interesting to still enjoy his music, 'cause he offered eveything when he was in Guns N' Roses. I just wanted to know if you share the same point of view.

MoonMax

[jbreezy]

No, I don't get your point, but fuck Slash, he can't go one article or interview without talkin shit about the new band.  If he thinks VR is so good, then he needs to shut the fuck up and just talk about them instead of dropping Axl's name everywhere.  CD will prove that as far as the writing goes Slash and Duff weren't the most important pieces, and it Contraband shows that without Axl, these guys would probably be still livin on the strip.
Just my opinion. I know I'm gonna get attacked.  Can't we all just get along?
 

I do love Slash, he was the one i liked the most in the band he inspired me to play guitar. My second favourite was Izzy, and the third was Axl. I don't understand people who hates Slash, 'cause he was one of the reasons why GN'R became popular, he is a Guitar God, he played on every released GN'R songs (except 2), so hating him and the others is very childish. You can love Axl without hating the others. Velvet Revolver is good, but not that great like GN'R was, just like the Nu-GN'R cannot be compared with the old band. When they'll have their records released we can judge whether it's good or genius, till then they proved nothing. I know that some on the board will bash CD and some will glorify it just based on their bias. I don't care, I'm tired of these 'Slash is a fuckin' bitch he is always talks shit about the new band'-panels - he never said anything negative about the new musicians, he's never said that Pittman looks like a guy from Village People, Buckethead is a bit strange, Fortus is an Izzy-clone and Robin Finck ruins his guitar parts. Maybe wasn't a nice thing saying that Nu-GN'R has only a couple of songs completed, but we don't know if it was right or not - I hope it wasn't. But compare what Slash said to the things Axl said about the old members - yeah, I know, Axl is a straight guy, he says what he thinks. Think it if you want. But if you listen to GN'R songs from the '85-'94 era, or the covers by Nu-GN'R, DON'T EVER CRITISIZE Slash'S, Duff's, Izzy's, Steven's and Matt's importance, otherwise you'll be a fool. If you like AFD, Lies, UYI, TSI, Sympathy, LE or the bootlegs, then you must like Slash & Co. 'cause they made those albums (with Axl).

PS: I wish the forum rules had a part that denying the old members contribution to te band is forbidden. But I know we live in a free world, and everybody has the right to be stupid.  

Maybe you misunderstood, I never said they didn't contribute, I said Axl was a bigger part of it than Duff, Slash and Matt.  Izzy was bigger than those three too.  Axl and Izzy were the main songwriting force behind GNR, period.  And it wasn't just the CD remark by Slash, IT'S EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE THAT HE'S IN.  I just got the new Guitar World and he even takes a stab at him there.  My point is, if he has this new band and all this "great" shit happening then drop the past and move forward, he just looks like an ass whenever he starts rippin people and especially when he starts talking about shit he has no clue about, like the status of CD.
Does that help.  Yes everybody does have the right to be stupid and they also have the right to be iliterate assholes.  

Im sorry SLASH should move on?? Slash isnt the one getting shit load of musicians playing old songs trying to relive past glories, slash has moved on. Good for Axl you know, he's working hard(apparently) on the new album. Think about this, he isn't Guns n Roses Axl is only 1/5. The GNR he is with today isn't GNR its an Axl Rose solo project. He may be using the name but he isnt Guns n Roses. Period.

You do realize the is a guns n roses board right?  Cause it sure seems like everyone is just into ripping Axl and singing the praises of some band that can't even put together a decent cd.  In my opinion VR sounds like GNR with somethin missing.  And by the way, I'm entitled to my opinion and if you don't like it, I got somethin' fat and hard in my pants that you could lick.
 
P.S. I wouldn't put out CD either if these were my fans.

[jbreezy]

I do agree with you moonmax, Slash offered a whole hell of a lot back in the day and I really don't like what he's done since.
So, yeah, I agree with you man.  And I ain't warrin', I'm just havin fun at others expenses and maybe playing a little devil's advocate.  It's just that some people can't read, so they insert there little comments into others mouths.
Anyway, I agree, good post man, it certainly passed some spare time for me.
Peace