and if Axl was right??

[2NaFish]

Why do you like Gun N roses then? Because the vast majority of their songs from Lies onward are Ballads. And I would consider GnR to be a hair band, considering that they're audience was the same as Poison, Warrant, Tesla, Motley Crue, Skid Row, etc. At least in the part of the world I grew up in.

I am beginning to question my allegiance. I thought GNR was rock-n-roll. I thought they were like Zep, the Stones, the Who, not Poison.

Because zep, the stones and the who never touched softer music. Ballads are a dirty word.

Aye right....

[nesquick]

Elton John is one of the greatest artist of all time. RESPECT for the guy!
Axl Rose is not a 100% hard-rock singer, that's why he is SO talented and that's why his music is SO great. It would be a shitty thing if Axl was like the singer of Poison, do you know what I mean? this hair band ereas truely sucked balls and Axl was different of that shit, he played the piano, he was more sensitive and much more talented (and the band GN'R was more talented).
Axl is a guy who LOVES to play the piano, and that's why I love him so much. If he was just a "hard-rock" singer he would have never been considered as one of the greatest frontman of all time, but just as a "hard-rock"singer among thousands others who just scream in a microphone.
Thanks God, Axl is not a stupid "hard-rock" singer, but a true artist. That's why he is different. When he plays piano he just kicks ass! just listen to ESTRANGED. that's a piece of art.

[Falcon]

However, I will go on record as saying that ballads should be best left to the likes of Journey or Toto - somewhere in the distant past.

If GNR wants to be popular, ballads are probably their best shot at this stage. Note to Axl: if this is the case, please e-mail me in advance so I can shoot myself and not have to live to witness this travesty.

Amen monkey.

[alternativemonkey]

When he plays piano he just kicks ass! just listen to ESTRANGED. that's a piece of art.

That's an oxymoron. One can not play piano and kick ass. "Piece of Art" is a meaningless phrase and does nothing to support your case.

Give me rebellion, give me punk, give me loud rock-n-roll. Elton John is great at what he does, but leave it to Elton John. GNR is great at "Welcome to the Jungle" and "Paradise City". If Axl believed differently, he wouldn't have tried to block that poor excuse greatest hits.

Long live rock. Rock is dead.

[Neemo]

I am beginning to question my allegiance. I thought GNR was rock-n-roll. I thought they were like Zep, the Stones, the Who, not Poison.

It has nothing to do with allegiance. If you like Guns and not Poison, so be it, but that era was the era Guns is from.  Not the era of the Stones, Zep and the Who (Like 20+ years before AFD).  G'n'R only has 4 albums. (not including spaghetti).

I can't cite a reference but I recall reading or hearing an interview from Duff just after UYI's came out and he said  something like "G'n'R couldn't even be considered to be in the same league as bands like the Stones or Zepp because those bands are classics with a long line of albums and hits. and that G'n'R only has 4 Albums." now I know that was like 13 years ago or something and many G'n'R tunes are now classics, but they still only have 4 albums, and the 3 bands you mentioned have, I don't know how many albums each but I'm pretty sure it's more than 4.

[nesquick]

all is a question of diversity:
wild rock n' roll tracks + magical blues-rock/piano ballads= great music and great success

[alternativemonkey]

I've learned a lot today. I learned that most people like GNR because they sing ballads, and I like them despite the fact they sing ballads. This makes me different.

I'm floored. I thought there would be some hardcore rock-n-rollers here.

[Crowebar]

Give me a fucking break please. [puke]


Chinese Democracy will kick VR's ass all over the map.

[Malcolm]

I agree i dont like slither at all....Chinese Democracy will be another Appetite For Destruction

[Andy-k]

the first snakepit album proves that Axl was right.

Contraband also!

[AdZ]

Why do you like Gun N roses then? Because the vast majority of their songs from Lies onward are Ballads. And I would consider GnR to be a hair band, considering that they're audience was the same as Poison, Warrant, Tesla, Motley Crue, Skid Row, etc. At least in the part of the world I grew up in.

Vast majority? Yeah, lets count, Don't Cry (x2), November Rain, Estranged.  That's 4.  Unless you want to count The Blues and Madagascar thats 6...

[Buddha_Master]

I bought "Contraband" of Velvet Revolver this afternoon. It's an ok album but not great.
To compare, "Madagascar" and "The Blues" are faaaar better in my opinion. I see so much more potencial there!
and if Axl was right?? What do you think?

Ready to hear something that if someone else said it, I would say that was really gay?

I watch this show with my daughter in the mornings called Bear in the Big Blue house and this thread reminds me of how this Jim Henson Bear talks. In the show he gives a topic and says "what do you think?" then you see real kids talking about what they think about it.

This post sounds like something Bear would say. I just starting laughing imagining Bear saying the words in this post.


...god i need a vacation

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Madagascar is not a ballad. Its like calling imagine by john lennon a ballad.

[Neemo]

Vast majority? Yeah, lets count, Don't Cry (x2), November Rain, Estranged.  That's 4.  Unless you want to count The Blues and Madagascar thats 6...

Ok, maybe not vast majority & I may have a different idea of a ballad than you, but Rocket Queen, Patience, One In A Million, Coma, Civil War, KOHD, Yesterdays, Break Down, Locomotive & So Fine. UYI has almost 50% of the tracks over 5 minutes (Don't Cry's are 4:45 so they don't count) while AFD only is 15%.

The number of ballads G'n'R does is not the point though. My point was that some of their most memoriable songs are ballads, so how can you like G'n'R if you don't like ballads? that's all, unless, of course, your favorite Guns tunes are Bad Obsession and Dust 'n' Bones and Perfect Crime and Back Off Bitch and Right Next Door to Hell & Double Talkin' Jive (I'm not to fond OF UYI 1). If that is the case, then, my apologies.

[MadmanDan]

The Stones sing " Angie". Clearly they're a hairband!!!!!!!!!