How about comparing STP vs VR

[coondogg]

Since this is a GNR message board, I know there will be alot of comparing old GNR to VR. How about comparing it to STP, seeing as the former STP songwriter is now writing VR lyrics?

I'm a big STP/Scott fan and am intersted in others opinions on how different VR is for Scott now. The direction STP was going seems to be quite a bit different than VR. While STP's last few cds had some rockers, it seemed they were adding quite a bit more softer, different tempo songs. No 4 and Shangri La Dee Da are great but they were heading in a different, evolving direction. Now with VR, it seems that Scott had to try to come back to the hard rock style they featured before. I will say that STP's last song (All in the Suit That you Wear) is pretty hard and kicked ass, so maybe if they stayed together this is the kind of record they would have made. Anyway, it would be great to hear other peoples opinion.

Also, from what understand, when Scott came on board the music was done and he just added lyrics to these existing songs. Seems like he whipped them up pretty fast. I wonder if he maybe had some lyrics done for other things and used them with VR. I remember hearing he was starting to record a solo album just before joining VR. I wonder if he used some of those lyrics for Contraband?

[PeterCoffin]

I was expecting VR to be STP 2.0 and admittedly was a little disappointed in the fact that it's not. VR is damn good, but I do like STP more. They just had this haunting feeling to everything they did. I loved their hard rock (Dead & Bloated, Sex Type Thing, Down, Heaven & Hotrods, the list goes on), and I loved songs like Big Empty and even Sour Girl (which everyone I knew seemed to hate).

VR is like STP minus the haunting element. It's a little more hard-rockin' and it's damn good. I am really happy with it, but am a little saddened that I probably won't hear stuff like Big Empty or I Got You from VR (though Loving The Alien shows some potential). Headspace has a major STP rocker feel to it, though.

But you never know, they said they aren't going to bind themselves to a specific set of rock rules.

[jabba2]

No contest. All 5 STP records were better. They should have got the Deleos to pruduce Contraband lol. Im not digging the sound on a couple tracks. Scott sings with like a bored voice in some tracks, and they still decide to produce the vocals so they stick out above the band. Hes not trying to sing like Axl or Queensryche, so why produce it that way?

[Mr Cowbell ?]

They should have got the Deleos to pruduce Contraband lol.

If that would of happened it would of definently had a STP sound and would of been like the next STP record. If they want to have their own sound (So they say) they can't use STP member as producers

[Booker Floyd]

and even Sour Girl (which everyone I knew seemed to hate).

 

"Sour Girl" might be the best ballad of the last few years...why did they hate it?

[the dirt]

and even Sour Girl (which everyone I knew seemed to hate).

 

"Sour Girl" might be the best ballad of the last few years...why did they hate it?

Sourgirl was great, i agree, but it's definitley not the best ballad of the last few years, come on.

[Booker Floyd]

Sourgirl was great, i agree, but it's definitley not the best ballad of the last few years, come on.

Obviously I disagree...

Name some better ones, though.

[the dirt]

Name some better ones, though.

Any <ballad> on Tesla's new cd for one. You should check this out if you havn't yet (into the now).