First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour

[bolton]

Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts.



/jarmo

That's what I find most impressive.

This IS the first "solo" stadium tour GnR has ever done in North America.

And, attendance wise, they pretty closely matched the numbers of a tour they did with (IMHO) 2.5 headliners, in the 90's.  The GNR/Metallica/FNM tour was more a festival than it was tour....  You literally had the two biggest rock acts on the planet, at the time, on the same bill.

And GnR, in 2016, pretty much matched it.

That's fucking impressive as hell, to me.

Yes man.That's my point too...It was pretty huge this summer in US.
Also I didn't understand why guns n roses didn't played stadium tour in 1991 or 1992 in US,I mean solo tour

[D-GenerationX]

Not sure they could fill stadiums in 1991, off of one album.

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

[Walapino]

Not sure they could fill stadiums in 1991, off of one album.

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

Also in 91 only the young people mostly were fans, now its people from 15 to 40+ they have expanded the generations in their fan base.

[Lord Stan]

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into.

[WAR41]

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into.

He was talking about back in 1991. 

[D-GenerationX]

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into.

He was talking about back in 1991. 

I was.

But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns.  You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts.

That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between.  I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A.  But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there.  And you can't play half empty places and still make money.

And as was pointed out, in 1991, their fanbase was still very young.  Take me, I was 13 years old that summer.  But this summer I was 38 with a shitload more dispoable income.

Legacy bands can do stadium yours and charge huge bucks once their fanbase is older and more affluent.  No better example than The Eagles or Stones.  Their prices got obscene because their fans were, by that point, older folks with bucks.

[TheBaconman]

You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere.  For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville.

I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into.

He was talking about back in 1991. 

I was.

But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns.  You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts.

That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between.  I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A.  But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there.  And you can't play half empty places and still make money.

And as was pointed out, in 1991, their fanbase was still very young.  Take me, I was 13 years old that summer.  But this summer I was 38 with a shitload more dispoable income.

Legacy bands can do stadium yours and charge huge bucks once their fanbase is older and more affluent.  No better example than The Eagles or Stones.  Their prices got obscene because their fans were, by that point, older folks with bucks.

Its the cost of a stadium production that makes it not feasible to only do a couple of shows

If it was a stripped down show, why couldn't they play one or two giant stadium shows?  All the band would have to cover would be the cost to rent the venue

I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals.   Smaller venues for me hands down.  I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar.   Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. 

[D-GenerationX]

I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals.   Smaller venues for me hands down.  I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar.   Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. 

Depends on the band, for me.  If its some nobody band, or a band just starting out...yeah, cool.

But if its a big time established act, one with a long track record of playing large venues with big productions, I don't want "up close and personal" type shows.  They feel small time to me and proof that the band is headed in the wrong direction in terms of appeal, relevance, and impact.

I absoltuely loved seeing GNR in the stadium this summer.  It felt like an event.  I had missed that about this band.  As they played all those smaller veneues the past few years out of the goodness of their hearts.

[jarmo]

But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns.  You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts.

That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between.  I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A.  But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there.  And you can't play half empty places and still make money.

That's actually what some acts do.

Play the MetLife, Gillette and/or Chicago stadiums and then do arenas or sheds elsewhere.





/jarmo

[TheBaconman]

I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals.   Smaller venues for me hands down.  I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar.   Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. 

Depends on the band, for me.  If its some nobody band, or a band just starting out...yeah, cool.

But if its a big time established act, one with a long track record of playing large venues with big productions, I don't want "up close and personal" type shows.  They feel small time to me and proof that the band is headed in the wrong direction in terms of appeal, relevance, and impact.

I absoltuely loved seeing GNR in the stadium this summer.  It felt like an event.  I had missed that about this band.  As they played all those smaller veneues the past few years out of the goodness of their hearts.

You are not looking at the price of a ticket I quoted for a smaller show

A up and coming band or a band that is on the downward slope would not be charging hundreds of dollars for a smaller concert

I would just love to see this formation of guns in front of 1000 people and would pay big money for it.

The best concerts I have ever seen have been in smaller/weird locations.    Weezer in a wave pool in Vegas was fantastic, Billy Idol in front of 500 people in a bar was out of this world good.

[D-GenerationX]

It would also depend on the kind of show.

If I see GNR in some super small spot, don't play the stadium show.  Need s different set list that's a bit more unique.

[TheBaconman]

It would also depend on the kind of show.

If I see GNR in some super small spot, don't play the stadium show.  Need s different set list that's a bit more unique.

Yes now you are talking.

I would pay great money for a small venue, with a once in a lifetime setlist, not unplugged!.

No covers!

And paridise not being the closer!!!!!  but the opener!

[draguns]

Not me. I like the fact that they do stadiums. I hope in fall of 2017 that they play at MSG, Prudential Center, etc. For me, a bar wouldn't do since you have to stand for the show. Halestorm played outside at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park last year. I couldn't go since it is a standing only venue. When Slash did his solo show at Terminal 5 last year, it's standing only. For some people, these venues are not accessible to go.

[Lord Stan]

Its the cost of a stadium production that makes it not feasible to only do a couple of shows

I see, that sounds about correct. Producing 25 stadium shows is not 25 times more expensive as doing one.

[WAR41]

Not gonna lie, when the tour was announced I was seriously bummed that it was a stadium tour.  I mean SERIOUSLY bummed.  Out of the literally hundreds of shows I've been to throughout my life not once had I seen a stadium show because it was too impersonal for me. 

Then I got to see GNR twice (Philly and the 2nd Metlife show) and I've gotta say, it was spectacular.  It was such a crazy experience seeing those entire venues packed to see the band and going crazy.  The stage production was terrific.  I will always prefer arena/club shows to stadiums, but I know that if GNR played stadiums again it would still be a great experience. 

[bolton]

Ibwatched Guns two times in Arena Belgreade w010 and Budapest 2006 andnone stadium show 2012 in Sofia...I had amazing expirience on all shows but stadiums had some crazy spirit...

[nick6sic6]

Ibwatched Guns two times in Arena Belgreade w010 and Budapest 2006 andnone stadium show 2012 in Sofia...I had amazing expirience on all shows but stadiums had some crazy spirit...

What a 3+ hour-long setlist was that in Sofia ! One of the best.

[Six Strings]

I am from Sofia and I was to the show. It was indeed amazing however I liked the Belgrade one more. Personal feeling I guess.

[bolton]

I am from Sofia and I was to the show. It was indeed amazing however I liked the Belgrade one more. Personal feeling I guess.

Yeah...Serbian fans are like south america fans...very loud and crazy

[nick6sic6]

I am certain that when the tour hits Europe,hopefully next summer, it will be as successful as the north american leg and every show close to being sold out.