Old concert added to the GN'R channel in Spotify :)

[TheBaconman]

So is this official or what

[gnrfan89]

This is now available on Amazon.

[fito_gnr]

There's now one new with old tv performances in Spotify With 6 songs.. The name of the album is Live On Air. I don't know if it is official but it's cool to have it

[raindog]

It isn't official. None of these TV or radio performance broadcast releases are.

[EmilyGNR]

Isn't the recording on Live on Air from some "Bandana" record label? Dead giveaway

[jarmo]

It's still odd that these recordings suddenly start appearing.

For example, if MTV broadcast a concert, isn't it owned by MTV? How can somebody else release it? It's not like they're selling these under the counter.



/jarmo

[Nytunz]

It's still odd that these recordings suddenly start appearing.

For example, if MTV broadcast a concert, isn't it owned by MTV? How can somebody else release it? It's not like they're selling these under the counter.



/jarmo

Is it possible for people in Spotify to answer this? its a bit odd, yes.

[The Wight Gunner]

It's still odd that these recordings suddenly start appearing.

For example, if MTV broadcast a concert, isn't it owned by MTV? How can somebody else release it? It's not like they're selling these under the counter.



/jarmo

Not necessarily , MTV might have had a replay clause where the number of repeats are limited to a certain number of showing/airings

[jarmo]

But who would own the copyright after?



/jarmo

[--DEA--]

Welcome to the jungle from MTV music awards 1988.. one of the best performance

[raindog]

But who would own the copyright after?



/jarmo

From what I understand it's either stemming from or following in the tradition of a few EU countries such as Italy and the Netherlands having much looser copyright laws (there was a HUGE influx of physical copies of exactly these type of thing in the 90s). TV and radio broadcasts there seem to be treated as fair game after a certain amount of time has passed, unless the copyright owner exerts their claim, has plans to release it themselves etc. - it's treated as ephemeral. People have had it, people have seen it, they've made copies of it, but it's never been available as an officially sanctioned commercially released product, so it's essentially treated as public domain the same way music can be in the rest of the world if it's not released in some commercial format within 50 years (hence the ludicrous copyright-extending boxset of every note Dylan recorded between 65-66 this year).

It's up to rights holders to stamp this stuff out if it bothers them and (IMO Spotify shouldn't be hosting these) but it seems the attitude generally is 'well, this stuff's on YouTube, file sharing sites, fan forums and in people's physical collections already anyway, so screw it'.

[jarmo]

Yeah, I remember those places being the home of many bootlegs releases pre-Internet.

But still, these aren't just appearing at music fairs or sold in stalls at the market...




/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

The copyright/IP laws and trips agreements are in need of revision and to be redefined as soon as possible.

I've seen overseas eBay sites list recordings that would not be allowed in the U.S.

This is interesting-
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/bootleg-copyright-law-just-some-info-i-think-you-guys-would-dig-57548.html

[jarmo]

Some of these bootlegs have been on Amazon for quite some time as well.



/jarmo

[axlvai]

Generally the people who buy this things (bootlegs) dont know the file share comunities... or arent motherfkng fans like us. who knows to use internet.

People generally go to google and write "how to download a mp3/video from youtube" and thats it.

Fuck spotify dont like it too.