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« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2010, 12:13:32 PM »

Nobody is complaining. Speculating on the new album has nothing to do with the band status - at least from me. IMHO, it's just fun to talk about new songs and production, there's no harm here.

Yes, but often times one's speculation turns into negativity. There are already people speculating that Axl may no longer be interested in the previously recorded material. Others have questioned why he would tour NA again without a new album being released. Others have suggested BBF's "no new album anytime soon" to mean that we would be waiting another ten years.

Again, speculation without basis often turns a positive sceario into something negative. I'd prefer to just sit back and enjoy Chinese Democracy while the band is out playing live shows. No reason to focus on the "what ifs" when we have some truly positive things happening right now.
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« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2010, 12:53:20 PM »

Nobody is complaining. Speculating on the new album has nothing to do with the band status - at least from me. IMHO, it's just fun to talk about new songs and production, there's no harm here.

Yes, but often times one's speculation turns into negativity. There are already people speculating that Axl may no longer be interested in the previously recorded material. Others have questioned why he would tour NA again without a new album being released. Others have suggested BBF's "no new album anytime soon" to mean that we would be waiting another ten years.

Again, speculation without basis often turns a positive sceario into something negative. I'd prefer to just sit back and enjoy Chinese Democracy while the band is out playing live shows. No reason to focus on the "what ifs" when we have some truly positive things happening right now.

you worry way too much.. i don't listen/read or take serious those ppl.. negative comments and stuff are on the other board.. that's why i only write here.



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« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2010, 02:51:35 PM »

I remember telling Ron in Dec, 2008. That I thought his Catcher In The Rye solo, was better than Brain Mays'. Ron was very humble, and kept on saying "nah, nah".  Wink

When they were in Helsinki, I asked Ron about Catcher In The Rye and what happened to Brian May, we both agreed that just thinking about replacing Brian May is blasphemy Cheesy

But the demo did sound like "Axl Rose performing with The Beatles featuring Brian May on lead guitar"

I'm not saying sounding like that is bad but the album version does sound more like Guns N' Roses, but still, Brian May...
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« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2010, 03:02:44 PM »

I remember telling Ron in Dec, 2008. That I thought his Catcher In The Rye solo, was better than Brain Mays'. Ron was very humble, and kept on saying "nah, nah".  Wink

When they were in Helsinki, I asked Ron about Catcher In The Rye and what happened to Brian May, we both agreed that just thinking about replacing Brian May is blasphemy Cheesy

But the demo did sound like "Axl Rose performing with The Beatles featuring Brian May on lead guitar"

I'm not saying sounding like that is bad but the album version does sound more like Guns N' Roses, but still, Brian May...

I know what you're saying, Brian May is a legend.  Smiley

I think I liked Rons' solo better because I have became more accustomed to his style. And also maybe because it was fresher on the ears, but I do still enjoy the demo version. And yes it does sound very Beatlesesque, and has a different feel to it than the CD version.

I'm also in love with Rons' outro, his guitar just cries and it goes with the vocals perfectly. I just feel priveledged to have seen this song live on the day J.D Salinger past away, in Toronto, Canada.  Wink
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« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2010, 03:29:08 PM »

The title is kinda misleading and that seems to confuse some people.

If you look at what he said and pick it apart, it's easier to see what he meant:


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Other than old unreleased ['Chinese Democracy'] songs

Notice that part.

We all know the band recorded material that didn't make it onto Chinese Democracy.

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songs need to be written, jammed, recorded, tweaked, re-worked, re-recorded, mixed, re-mixed, mastered, re-mastered, art, new art, label approval, a game plan from the label that Axl [Rose, lead singer] approves.... not as simple when it's on such a big scale... Just don't want ya getting frustrated if a GN'R album doesn't happen quick..."

This is true. But when talking about the first scenario, many of these steps can be skipped....

Which could be quicker than starting from scratch.

Also, what Dj talked about makes sense. Anyone who's seen the band on this tour can see how much chemistry they have. They've toured together around the world since December 2009.

It's no surprise if Dj is excited about the prospect of using all that energy to create something new.




What is still true is that there's no need to get mad at the band for not releasing "that promised album" soon.





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I think i would be more happy if they released the "left overs" album! Im really looking forward to hear those industrial sounding songs and the rest of the ballads.
I think GNR will go traditional again with DJ so that can wait a little bit.
Im curious about the other songs for now and if they're released, it would be hella awesome!
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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2010, 03:29:38 PM »

I remember telling Ron in Dec, 2008. That I thought his Catcher In The Rye solo, was better than Brain Mays'. Ron was very humble, and kept on saying "nah, nah".  Wink

When they were in Helsinki, I asked Ron about Catcher In The Rye and what happened to Brian May, we both agreed that just thinking about replacing Brian May is blasphemy Cheesy

But the demo did sound like "Axl Rose performing with The Beatles featuring Brian May on lead guitar"

I'm not saying sounding like that is bad but the album version does sound more like Guns N' Roses, but still, Brian May...

I know what you're saying, Brian May is a legend.  Smiley

I think I liked Rons' solo better because I have became more accustomed to his style. And also maybe because it was fresher on the ears, but I do still enjoy the demo version. And yes it does sound very Beatlesesque, and has a different feel to it than the CD version.

I'm also in love with Rons' outro, his guitar just cries and it goes with the vocals perfectly. I just feel priveledged to have seen this song live on the day J.D Salinger past away, in Toronto, Canada.  Wink

The outro is beatiful, I actually said it to Ron, but you know Ron, just a very humble "thank you" for an answer. Smiley

Also hearing the song on the day Salinger past away, that's something special.
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« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2010, 03:35:30 PM »

I kind of think that Axl's done a George Lucas thing, when Lucas chose not to make some Star Wars films because the technology wasn't available at the time. In the case of GnR's I feel Axl may have wanted the music done in a certain way, and regardless of whatever you think of the various members, each in my view has been an improvement on who they replaced. I know that's kind of debatable, Fink and Bucket, were great and I had the pleasure of seeing them play live, but in my view DJ, Bumblefoot as a unit are a more rounded kind of deal, they deliver, yet you feel that they have lots more to offer. Certainly in the case of Buckethead, talented, special, spectacular as he is, I don't sense that the group needed his brand of musical direction. Great solo's yes, but what of the overall contribution? I think Axl's  got a better deal with Daren and Ron with their combined input.
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« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2010, 04:19:30 PM »

I kind of think that Axl's done a George Lucas thing, when Lucas chose not to make some Star Wars films because the technology wasn't available at the time. In the case of GnR's I feel Axl may have wanted the music done in a certain way, and regardless of whatever you think of the various members, each in my view has been an improvement on who they replaced. I know that's kind of debatable, Fink and Bucket, were great and I had the pleasure of seeing them play live, but in my view DJ, Bumblefoot as a unit are a more rounded kind of deal, they deliver, yet you feel that they have lots more to offer. Certainly in the case of Buckethead, talented, special, spectacular as he is, I don't sense that the group needed his brand of musical direction. Great solo's yes, but what of the overall contribution? I think Axl's  got a better deal with Daren and Ron with their combined input.

Well, like Lucas, none of us is Axl.

Had Chinese Democracy sounded like the old band, with new players, I would have been dissapointed, really, wouldn't have you?

You can replace players but you can't replace persons, without Robin we wouldn't have Better, without Slash we wouldn't have Sweet Child O' Mine.

Without Lucas we would not have Star Wars to begin with, like with Chinese Democracy, I'm cool with the prequel trilogy, vision of the man who is responsible for creating the whole thing.

Lucas and Axl are in a way the same, they don't give a f%#c about what you or I think, like it should be. Lucas made the movies for him self, just like Axl made the music for him self, they also faced the same expectations and problems, no matter what you do, people won't be satisfied because everyone has their own vision about the thing, they could have made carbon copies of their previous work but both of them chose not to. And if they had, critics and viewers/listeners would have said, more of the same, like CD, in time people will learn to appreciate the prequel trilogy.
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« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2010, 04:24:23 PM »

I remember telling Ron in Dec, 2008. That I thought his Catcher In The Rye solo, was better than Brain Mays'. Ron was very humble, and kept on saying "nah, nah".  Wink

When they were in Helsinki, I asked Ron about Catcher In The Rye and what happened to Brian May, we both agreed that just thinking about replacing Brian May is blasphemy Cheesy

But the demo did sound like "Axl Rose performing with The Beatles featuring Brian May on lead guitar"


This is a classic example of one of the many ways unauthorized leaks can hurt a band. Fans hear a variation of a song that they like, and in turn, they think they have the right to question the artist's decision on why they used one variation of the art over another.

I never personally heard the version featuring Brian May, but I can say that I think the album version with Bumblefoot's contribution was perfect. So, I can't imagine I'm missing much.
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« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2010, 04:56:47 PM »

I kind of think that Axl's done a George Lucas thing, when Lucas chose not to make some Star Wars films because the technology wasn't available at the time. In the case of GnR's I feel Axl may have wanted the music done in a certain way, and regardless of whatever you think of the various members, each in my view has been an improvement on who they replaced. I know that's kind of debatable, Fink and Bucket, were great and I had the pleasure of seeing them play live, but in my view DJ, Bumblefoot as a unit are a more rounded kind of deal, they deliver, yet you feel that they have lots more to offer. Certainly in the case of Buckethead, talented, special, spectacular as he is, I don't sense that the group needed his brand of musical direction. Great solo's yes, but what of the overall contribution? I think Axl's  got a better deal with Daren and Ron with their combined input.

Well, like Lucas, none of us is Axl.

Had Chinese Democracy sounded like the old band, with new players, I would have been dissapointed, really, wouldn't have you?

You can replace players but you can't replace persons, without Robin we wouldn't have Better, without Slash we wouldn't have Sweet Child O' Mine.

Without Lucas we would not have Star Wars to begin with, like with Chinese Democracy, I'm cool with the prequel trilogy, vision of the man who is responsible for creating the whole thing.

Lucas and Axl are in a way the same, they don't give a f%#c about what you or I think, like it should be. Lucas made the movies for him self, just like Axl made the music for him self, they also faced the same expectations and problems, no matter what you do, people won't be satisfied because everyone has their own vision about the thing, they could have made carbon copies of their previous work but both of them chose not to. And if they had, critics and viewers/listeners would have said, more of the same, like CD, in time people will learn to appreciate the prequel trilogy.

That is a great reply, couldn't agree more with you  ok
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« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2010, 05:07:56 PM »

I remember telling Ron in Dec, 2008. That I thought his Catcher In The Rye solo, was better than Brain Mays'. Ron was very humble, and kept on saying "nah, nah".  Wink

When they were in Helsinki, I asked Ron about Catcher In The Rye and what happened to Brian May, we both agreed that just thinking about replacing Brian May is blasphemy Cheesy

But the demo did sound like "Axl Rose performing with The Beatles featuring Brian May on lead guitar"


This is a classic example of one of the many ways unauthorized leaks can hurt a band. Fans hear a variation of a song that they like, and in turn, they think they have the right to question the artist's decision on why they used one variation of the art over another.

I never personally heard the version featuring Brian May, but I can say that I think the album version with Bumblefoot's contribution was perfect. So, I can't imagine I'm missing much.

We all have the right to question, everything, that's how we learn, make new inventions, evolve.

Judging artist's product or vision on the other hand is something we don't really have the right to, as art is something made for your self, not for others, and it's something we can not prove. If you can prove it, it's a fact, if not, it's an opinion.
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