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« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2006, 10:39:57 AM »

While this is a fantastic gesture by Ron, and I applaud his efforts, it really amounts to little more than an early round of damage control.  Statements like this come out, and for the following 3 months, GNR fans are placated. 

Anyone who raises an objection to the fact that there's no CD will undoubtedly be met by posts that begin as follows: "At least Ron communicates, be happy that GNR are on tour", or some such associated phrase.
"But would you prefer we hear nothing?"  Actually, at this point, yes.  If it's not directly related to the record, or press for said record, I'd prefer to hear nothing at all.  Work out whatever hundreds of factors are preventing this release, and re-emerge when it's time.
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« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2006, 10:49:13 AM »

Ron, the very newest member of the band and therefore the one you would think would have the least commitment to fans, is the one that makes the most effort to communicate and show appreciation. ?Anyone at GnR management taking notes?

Actually I would say just the opposite. He wants/needs to be accepted by the fan community, so therefore he keeps contact with the fanbase, in favor he just wants to be accepted as the "new family member".


that's a fair point.
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« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2006, 10:55:46 AM »

Ron, the very newest member of the band and therefore the one you would think would have the least commitment to fans, is the one that makes the most effort to communicate and show appreciation.  Anyone at GnR management taking notes?

Actually I would say just the opposite. He wants/needs to be accepted by the fan community, so therefore he keeps contact with the fanbase, in favor he just wants to be accepted as the "new family member".


that's a fair point.

It's simply his nature...He's always had an open dialog with his fanbase
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« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2006, 11:06:24 AM »



As previously reported, the Gnronline.it administrators are claming that GN'R management is playing favorites with the two big American fan sites, while other worldwide fan sites are being left in the dark despite their efforts over the course of the last ten years to support the group.

This is kinda odd, considering HTGTH (the fansite most supported by management) is a Swedish site.

Technically, since this is the Internet, HTGTH is an english speaking site. There are no borders on the net, only language.
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« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2006, 12:14:50 PM »

From what I've seen, if ya give out info before it's 100% confirmed, and things don't happen as planned, it leads to people feeling betrayed, so info should only come at the final moment when all the piece are in place.

Obviously that statement puts the nail in the coffin for a 2006 release (for those of you that still believed a 2006 release was possible.)

With two more Tuesdays in Merck's 13 Tuesday blurb, as Ron said, if all the pieces aren't in place.....we haven't heard the CD is coming out because all the pieces aren't in place, so.....no CD.
The idea of dropping the CD in stores with no adavance warning whatsoever is very rock'n'roll, but if you believe that the label would allow that to happen after all they've invested in this disc over the last ten years......

Do you guys remember when they released the Greatest Hits CD? There was tons of promotion for that, and that was just a compilation disc, when this band get's ready to drop new material, there will be no shortage of publicity and fanfare.

It's also a fair guess as to why we've not heard an official announcement that the CD won't be out this year.

I don't think GNR or management can release a statement saying the album won't be coming out without saying when it WILL be coming.
As Ron put it, you can't make a committment like that until you have the pieces in place, or you will get the kind of reaction we will see when Jan. 1 arrives and people finally have to accept that there will be no CD in '06, despite Merck's assurances.

Having said all that, I am still fully behind this band, and whenever the CD drops I'll be lined up to buy it.
You know, there could be a real positive to this whole thing.

I really believe that Axl is very much a perfectionist, and I believe he had some concerns about how this album would be received.

I think the reaction to the leaks, and to the new tracks being played during the tours in '06, will help assure Axl that fans really like the new stuff, it'll be well received, and they can go ahead and get the album out there.


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« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2006, 12:26:48 PM »

Im sure it'll be here soon enough  Wink
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« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2006, 12:35:33 PM »


 From what I've seen, if ya give out info before it's 100% confirmed, and things don't happen as planned, it leads to people feeling betrayed, so info should only come at the final moment when all the piece are in place.


 Maybe he should tell that to Axl & Merck. Afterall, it's Merck's "13 Tuesdays" then "10 Tuesdays" comments and Axl's " Fall/Late Fall, Definately this year"? comments that got everyone all excited in the first place.

I've accepted the fact that the cd isn't coming out this year. I can't believe some people still think it will come out this year. confused? We might have a new VR cd before we get Chinese Democracy.

I just hope it comes out by summer. I'm still not buying any more new GnR merch until after the cd is out. I have plenty of GnR stuff, i can do just fine without more Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2006, 02:03:22 PM »

Doesn't he usually sign off with 'bbf' and not 'Ron'?  Tongue
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« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2006, 02:15:11 PM »

Trust me, that IS Ron.

The amout of "Smiley" used and the "*fuck it*" and "*thank you* in * * give it away. hihi
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« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2006, 02:58:56 PM »

ron's comments are in a new rolling stone article online.  i started a thread about it, but of course here today gone hitler deleted it.  as im sure this post will too...
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« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2006, 03:00:20 PM »

ron's comments are in a new rolling stone article online.  i started a thread about it, but of course here today gone hitler deleted it.  as im sure this post will too...
That article took something nice Ron was saying to his fans and made him look bad. Good that they deleted it. Come to think of it, I'll delete it at my board too. Screw that author.
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