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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2006, 05:32:07 PM »

Hi Estrangedpaul,

That's a very good observation. ? yes ?In the short term, we are saving money by manufacturing in China, but if we keep losing our own manufacturing capabilities, then work shortages will continue to increase in America. ?You're not saving money when you're not making any. ? no ?It's the middle class that will suffer here.

China is poised to enter the North American market with their own cars. ?They have the potential to be very cheap, but will this be good for America and Canada or even Europe? ?The moribund American car makers could be wiped out. ?This is the stuff that recessions are made of. ?Anyway, we don't have the same access to the growing Chinese market as China has to the rest of the world. ?Good luck importing your products into China.

Anyway, the main point is that the people of China deserve their freedom as much as anyone else does. ?China's lifeline at this point is the money that it draws from their exports. ?The best way to achieve freedom in China is for their export market to demand it. ?We are their customers, and we should demand that their people be free.

Progress is being made. ?China is more and more running a free market, and it has been very successful at it. ?In a bizzarre twist however, this success is what has been propping up the communist government. ?Even many Chinese people now believe that their version of Communism has worked for them. ?The main reason China's Communism appears to work is because it is capitalism in disguise. ?But like I said, this doesn't make the people free. ?Everyone deserves their human rights. ?That is the main issue.

No one can really speak for Axl. ?He may have 2000 different intentions with the Chinese Democracy theme. ?I personally hope that he cares and is taking the Bono route. ?His art needs no validation, but if he chooses to validate his work with this good cause, I'm all for it.

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2006, 09:44:40 PM »

didn't axl actually say the song chinese democracy was inspired by the movie kundun?  i remember he spoke about the film in 02.
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2006, 07:50:18 AM »

Hi Estrangedpaul,

That's a very good observation. ? yes ?In the short term, we are saving money by manufacturing in China, but if we keep losing our own manufacturing capabilities, then work shortages will continue to increase in America. ?You're not saving money when you're not making any. ? no ?It's the middle class that will suffer here.

China is poised to enter the North American market with their own cars. ?They have the potential to be very cheap, but will this be good for America and Canada or even Europe? ?The moribund American car makers could be wiped out. ?This is the stuff that recessions are made of. ?Anyway, we don't have the same access to the growing Chinese market as China has to the rest of the world. ?Good luck importing your products into China.

Anyway, the main point is that the people of China deserve their freedom as much as anyone else does. ?China's lifeline at this point is the money that it draws from their exports. ?The best way to achieve freedom in China is for their export market to demand it. ?We are their customers, and we should demand that their people be free.

Progress is being made. ?China is more and more running a free market, and it has been very successful at it. ?In a bizzarre twist however, this success is what has been propping up the communist government. ?Even many Chinese people now believe that their version of Communism has worked for them. ?The main reason China's Communism appears to work is because it is capitalism in disguise. ?But like I said, this doesn't make the people free. ?Everyone deserves their human rights. ?That is the main issue.

No one can really speak for Axl. ?He may have 2000 different intentions with the Chinese Democracy theme. ?I personally hope that he cares and is taking the Bono route. ?His art needs no validation, but if he chooses to validate his work with this good cause, I'm all for it.

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Good post and I agree China deserves to be free. It's interesting in the last paragraph you said he might have 2000 intentions with the Chinese Democracy theme. 2000 intentions was an alternative name for the album (i believe) so maybe he was tryin to tell us something. hihi
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2006, 06:39:23 PM »

didn't axl actually say the song chinese democracy was inspired by the movie kundun?? i remember he spoke about the film in 02.


Kundun was actually on TV here (Toronto) about a week ago.  I was too busy to watch it, but it looked very interesting and I made a point of writing down the title so I could rent it.  That's very interesting you should mention it.  It was released in 1997, so I guess it was in Axl's "wilderness years" and it is highly probable that it was an influence for Chinese Democracy.  I will definitely rent and see this film now.

Do you perhaps recall where Mr. Rose spoke about Kundun?  Does anyone have a video clip of this?

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