Robin and Izzy

[Lucky]

Slash had no history with an established band before joining GnR though. So it doesn't really prove your point as far as Tommy, Brain, and Robin are concerned

was slash talented? yes he was/is.

did anyone know about him before he joined GNR? no they did not.

what does make him. talented person that nobody knows of. in another words... talented no-name.



Finck/Stinson

Are they telented? yes they are

how well were they known before joining GNR? not well at all.

what does that make them? talented no-names.

are they well known now? no they are not.

people seen them live, but nobody knows their names.

so they are still reasonable no-names.

you just proved my theory dick!
he was a no-name talented musician!
Like I've been saying for the past 5 hours.

And robin is fairly famous musician with an unknown talent for writing.
Axl must have a great gift for discovering musicians or bringing out their latent abilities.

Is this what you've been trying to say for 5 hours?

I'm claiming that finck/stinson are fairly unknown for musicians for people with such great abilities.

and that so far they have lived in the shadows of their past bands and frontmen.

it's up to Axl to let them live outside of his shadow once the album is released.

[fokstar]

the replacements are one the most important band to come out of the 80s.tommy did it all before he turned 21. why do u think hes in guns axl got lot of respect for his past.i was shockd when he joined them. like paul westerberg said of tommy    he was groomed to be a rockstar.

[requiem156]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it.?
go ahead. crucify me.? I deserve it.?
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

I figured, but your mistake went along with the point you were trying to make?

it's one of those situations when you think one thing, and your mouth says something else....

Even ignoring your mistake, and the fact that you admit yourself that you don't know any bass players , the point is pretty much worthless. No one would want Les Claypool, Billy Sheehan, Jaco Pastorius, Jeff Berlin, Stu Hamm, Michael Manring, Flea, Charlie Haden, Jack Bruce etc. in GNR - it's not a band for virtuoso bass playing. He looks the part and stays on the beat. Plus, he has a high voice that is ideal for back-up vox w/Axl. He is known by many people - the Replacements are an iconic band, believe it or not. It astounds me that some of you think of these people as "no-names" just because you've never heard of them. Does that apply to political and historical figures as well? How about famous artists from the rennaissance? Are any of you familiar with Arnold Schoenberg, or Steve Reich? If not, maybe 20th century classical music should just hang it up because it's not as famous as Slash. If only they wore top-hats! More people probably know Britney Spears than Slash - I guess that makes him a no-name to some people too. Wow-this gets confusing.

dude I never said they suck!
I like them all, but they are not famous!!!
They are great musicians but ---> NO-NAME = not famous!!!

they are no-name talented musicians!!!! THATS HOW THIS FUCKIN DISCUSSION STARTED
as soon as I said that, all hell broke loose.
(and what's so wrong about being no-name and talented)


I'm not saying that they are unknown because I dont know of them. I'm saying that they are unknown because most of the poeple here(and everywhere else) dont know about them.
and even the guys I knew before they joined GNR I think that they are fairly no-names. such as buckethead and finck.


(But you would have known all that if you only bothered to read my post)






this discussion is way off topic!!!
I dont remember the last time anyone here mentioned izzy..., and this is a finck/stradlin thread.

I did bother to read your post(there's some time I'll never get back), but apparently you didn't read mine. I'm not implying that you think they suck - I'm simply amazed that you are arrogant enough to call them no-names simply because you have never heard of them.

If you want to keep the conversation on topic, I would say that anyone who wants the new band to succeed would be happy that Izzy has played with them.

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

this thread has turned into a retared,usless discussion. congratulations

[requiem156]

this thread has turned into a retared,usless discussion. congratulations

Wow - a thread making non-points based in conjecture about interpersonal relationships between 2 band members who haven't offered an opinion on the subject has turned out to be useless. Color me surprised. 

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

i didnt bother reading through the whole thread... but wtf man? why are people bitching about izzy coming on stage with guns? thats bullshit. izzy comin on stage isn't any disrespect to robin or trying to show robin up or anything.. i see it as an old member of a band joining the new members of the band that he helped start and supporting them.. big props to izzy