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« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2006, 07:39:03 PM »

Awesome song, would prefer to hear estranged and twat live over November Rain


I think I would agree with you. November Rain sometimes sounds un-believable live, but other times it does kind of drag a little - depends on the mood, I guess

I feel the same way. Usually when I'm actually at a Guns show I'm cool with it, but afterwards on bootlegs I usually skip it or breeze through it until the end reprise.
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« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2006, 07:40:37 PM »

i need to se November Rain live.. i really hope they still play it..  ok
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« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2006, 07:49:22 PM »

There seems to be quite a wide range of opinions on this topic.  However, I think that the musicians Axl has selected are very very good in the new line-up. Thus, I think they can play any GNR back catalog song very well.  By the way, many other bands could probably do the same.  If BH was still in the band, I'm sure he could practice estrange and play every solo without a doubt.  Not sure why people seem to think that only slash and the old band can play this song.  I think people prefer seeing/hearing slash do it, but that doesn't mean others can't play it.  This newer line-up can probably plan any song they want to play well.
I think the reason people say that the new band can't play a certain song, is for 2 reasons:
1) Fink, Fortus, etc. trying to make a solo their own
2) Axl- has changed a few things, sound wise, to make the band have a more modern sound (he's even said this)

My guess to why they didn't play estranged last tour, was that they basically played the same set list.  Also, they tried to keep the show around 2 hours.  In 2 hours, u can play enough songs to please everyone.  I think Axl didn't have room in his mind to add another slow song to the mix, after the others he planned on playing (ie: patience, blues, nov. rain, KOHD, etc.
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« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2006, 08:13:43 PM »

No worries? ok

I know what you mean... that song is all Slash and maybe the band couldn't pull it off.? I can't imagine it being easy to play.

On the other hand, I heard the song is about Slash, specifically with lines like "I'll never find anyone to replace you".? One could argue that Axl doesn't feel the need to play the song anymore?

I highly doubt the song is about Slash, it's about a lost love (Erin Everly perhaps?)


estranged is based upon the "without you" series by a novel del james wrote.


No its not actually, axl just thought it was funy that he wrote the line 'without you' , which is the name of the song written by the central protaganist in del james series 'the language of fear'........axl stated that he had, unwittingly wrote that song.
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« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2006, 10:23:47 PM »

I wonder why GNR doesn't play Estranged anymore?? Any thoughts?

Wow, what a weird question. I think I just aged four years....

Damn! why haven't they played estranged during this huge tour that hasn't started yet!

And not once during their epic 6-show world tour in 02!

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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2006, 10:31:14 PM »

If Axl has written a better song lyrically than Estranged then I iwll truly be blown away. If Gnr come up with a great piece of music like estranged, I will be again...blown away.

Estranged is just 1 of those songs. Its ashame it doesnt get credit like NR does but I guess its for the hardcore fan....Simply a beautiful song

I think Axl has written songs lyrically as good or even better than Estranged or thing is we may never get to hear them all.  Sad It is my favorite GNR song. Yeah it really is a shame it does not get the like NR or Don't Cry does. I think it is one of the best rock songs ever. It's sad how you never hear it at the top with Led Zeppelin, Stairway To Heaven or The Eagles, Hotel California.
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« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2006, 07:33:20 AM »

Estranged... one of my absoloute favourite Guns tunes, and I think the band could handle it well. Go for it!
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« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2006, 01:05:20 PM »


It is my favorite GNR song. Yeah it really is a shame it does not get the like NR or Don't Cry does. I think it is one of the best rock songs ever. It's sad how you never hear it at the top with Led Zeppelin, Stairway To Heaven or The Eagles, Hotel California.

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« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2006, 04:14:38 PM »


On the other hand, I heard the song is about Slash, specifically with lines like "I'll never find anyone to replace you".? One could argue that Axl doesn't feel the need to play the song anymore?

Considering the song was released about 5 years before Slash left and who knows how long ago it was written, I doubt that very strongly.

I would like to hear it on this tour though. It is on the level of Coma, because it isn't the easiest song to play or sing live, especially when half of the band is wasted during the show. However with the changes in Axl's voice and the talent of the new line-up, I would love this to be on the setlist for any of the nights.
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« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2006, 04:53:13 PM »

Wearing the hot-pants aside - If you're suggesting Axl wrote that line about Slash, that would be pretty gay - and I don't think he's gay Lips Sealed
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