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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2006, 12:37:10 PM »

Buckmaster pretty much said that TWAT is a forgettable song   .  He thinks it sucks   so don't expect much from that one  .    He did praise "Seven"   I believe.

Where did you get that?  I don't remember him commenting on anything other than "Prostitute".

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2006, 12:38:43 PM »

orchestration is gay how bout some real rockers. ill give axl a four song minimum on this one
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2006, 04:57:57 PM »

Buckmaster pretty much said that TWAT is a forgettable song? ?.? He thinks it sucks? ?so don't expect much from that one? .? ? He did praise "Seven"? ?I believe.

Where did you get that?? I don't remember him commenting on anything other than "Prostitute".

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'TWAT' and 'Catcher in the Rye' are also expected to strongly feature on the new album. 'TWAT', an acronym for 'There Was a Time', was not regarded as a memorable song by Paul Buckmaster, but it is a song that is personal to Axl, so is likely to feature on the new album. The song itself features orchestration by Paul Buckmaster. 'Catcher in the Rye' has long been regarded as one of the 'big guns' on the new album, and Axl is alleged to have bigged up the song quite a few times to fans and friends alike. Dizzy Reed describes both songs as 'good rock songs'




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The release of 'Chinese Democracy', the much vaunted new album by Guns n'roses, is drawing ever closer, and could see a release as early as November/December of 2005.
July of 2005 should see Caram Costanzo and Merck Mercuriadis meet up to decide the final credits on the completed 'Chinese Democracy' album. And because the album was mostly recorded over the past two to three years, it does look as though that many producers and musicians alike will miss out despite devoting much time to the new Guns album. It is said though that a small amount of 'old' work does still remain on 'Chinese Democracy'. So musicians such as Brian May could still feature on CD, even though the chances are slim.

Brain Mantia, the drummer of Guns n'roses, is extremely confident that he will feature on all of the tracks on the new Guns n'roses album and gives us an idea as to what tracks will feature on the album.

'Prostitute' is likely to feature as one of the strongest tracks on the new Guns n'roses album. Although the roots of the song go back to the late 1990's, the meat of the song was actually only recorded in the last two-three years. Paul Buckmaster who did orchestration for the song told us "Prostitute is a mid-up, kind of biting, aggressive rhythm section; the way I wrote for the string section (32-piece, consisting of ten 1st Violins, eight 2nd Violins, six violas, and eight cellos) gives the song another dimension of, ice and fire, kind of powerful". Buckmaster also told us that 'Prostitute' was a 3-5 minute song

Already aired tracks 'Madagascar' and 'The Blues' will also feature on the new album, according to members of Guns n'roses, as will the title track 'Chinese Democracy'. Members were not so sure about 'Rhiad and the Bedouins' though. However, Splat understands that the song has been A-listed and is therefore a strong candidate for the new album.

Leaked track, 'IRS', is also a definite for the new album, although Merck Mercuriadis has stated that there are at least ten tracks on the new album which he considers stronger tracks than IRS.

'TWAT' and 'Catcher in the Rye' are also expected to strongly feature on the new album. 'TWAT', an acronym for 'There Was a Time', was not regarded as a memorable song by Paul Buckmaster, but it is a song that is personal to Axl, so is likely to feature on the new album. The song itself features orchestration by Paul Buckmaster. 'Catcher in the Rye' has long been regarded as one of the 'big guns' on the new album, and Axl is alleged to have bigged up the song quite a few times to fans and friends alike. Dizzy Reed describes both songs as 'good rock songs'.

'Leave Me Alone', 'Seven', and 'The General' could also feature on the new album. These three A listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially 'Seven', which Marco deems as the best of the three songs. It has also been reported that Marco worked on a fourth track, 'Thyme'. However, this song was not worked on subsequent to Marco's work in October 2002.

'This I Love', a song originally destined for the soundtrack of 'What Dreams May Come', is also likely to feature on the new album, and is regarded as another of Axl's personal favourites. The piano-led ballad has historically been described by Axl as the heaviest song he has ever written (emotionally speaking). The song, which was originally penned during the 1990's, is described by Dave Dominguez as a "very heartfelt' love song of about 5 minutes or more in length.

Other weak contenders for the new Guns n'roses album are 'Quick Song', a rock song with a riff reminiscent of Nirvana's 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', 'Zodiac', an electronic industrial song and Atlas Shrugged, which is somewhere between 70's glam rock and 'November Rain'. As these three songs date back to 2000, some of the titles may have changed.

All other rumoured titles that have circulated the airwaves over recent years are very unlikely to appear on Chinese Democracy, and it will probably be the case that a few new unheard of tracks could find their way onto the new album. Dizzy Reed has told Splat though that no cover songs will feature on the new Guns n'roses album, which will be good news to some fans.

As of today, Splat understands that band members will find out at the end of August/start of September whether they can continue their solo exploits until the end of the year, so it will be at this point when we, the fans, find out whether Chinese Democracy will see a 2005 release. So until then, let's keep our fingers crossed.

 
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2006, 05:54:41 PM »

Look at it like this, if buckmaster did say that TWAT was not one of the better songs on the album that is a good thing not bad. We all think TWAT is a great song, so that means its a filler on CD according to buckmaster and that must mean the other songs are mind blowing. Its not a negative that he said its not one of the best songs on the album, its show how great the album is going to be.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2006, 06:02:41 PM »

when will people realize that "Quick Song" is Chinese Democracy
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2006, 06:15:53 PM »

quick song sounds grungy or chinese democracy the song
the person with prosttitue said it had a 50 sec long intro didnt they?"
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2006, 06:23:15 PM »

when will people realize that "Quick Song" is Chinese Democracy

It's very possible esp. considering the name isn't used during the song and it is a short song by GNR standards so that might have been his nickname for the song. It does have that sorta riff to it.

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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2006, 06:26:44 PM »

Im sure CD didnt have lyrics to it yet when it was called quick song..
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2006, 06:26:58 PM »

I'm all excited all over again reading that article.

To me, Better is far for memorable than TWAT so I see that as a good thing that he doesn't see it as one of the memorable songs. I don't know about CITR being a 'big gun' though but that just seems to be article speculation that the song is considered to be one. I enjoy listening to CITR and TWAT but for me they are not big guns at all.

Better on the other hand.. ?drool drool drool
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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2006, 06:31:55 PM »

I'm all excited all over again reading that article.

To me, Better is far for memorable than TWAT so I see that as a good thing that he doesn't see it as one of the memorable songs. I don't know about CITR being a 'big gun' though but that just seems to be article speculation that the song is considered to be one. I enjoy listening to CITR and TWAT but for me they are not big guns at all.

Better on the other hand.. ?drool drool drool

I think CITR is the best new song so far, and when its finalized, and the orch. is added the song is going to be even better than Nov Rain.  CITR could be a huge cross over hit for gnr much like SCOM was.
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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2006, 06:34:20 PM »

Ah well Dave it's nice to actually see a thread to get everyone excited about what's to come.. far more enjoyable than the constant negative threads posted about what we havent heard yet, what the fans havent got yet etc etc  ok
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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2006, 10:50:27 PM »

I agree, Dave. The orchestral parts of all the songs going back to the Blues and Madagascar have been really good. Even Silkworms had some cool synth/orchestral parts (I'm using those interchangably). The little orchestral bridge in There Was a Time is probably my favorite part of the whole song... and I really love the song so that's not to put it down.
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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2006, 11:37:42 PM »

I agree, I think a finished CITR would me a great cross over song with big fan appeal
It is a very catchy track and good lyrics
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2006, 08:51:54 PM »

I'm all excited all over again reading that article.

To me, Better is far for memorable than TWAT so I see that as a good thing that he doesn't see it as one of the memorable songs. I don't know about CITR being a 'big gun' though but that just seems to be article speculation that the song is considered to be one. I enjoy listening to CITR and TWAT but for me they are not big guns at all.

Better on the other hand.. ?drool drool drool

I think CITR is the best new song so far, and when its finalized, and the orch. is added the song is going to be even better than Nov Rain.? CITR could be a huge cross over hit for gnr much like SCOM was.

I agree with you

Now that a few months have passed, this one (as well as The Blues and perhaps a radically reworked TWAT) bears the hallmarks of a classic. A real grower.

My concern is, that Axl has listed his 3 favs, which we've heard now in demo form. To me, these dont quite deliver on the earth shattering, big guns promises. Demos of course, but to me, at this stage in the game, CITR and The Blues are the only things that sound like Bug Guns to my ears.
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