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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2006, 04:33:01 PM »

if it sounds like the leaks we heard minus CITR, it will be good

if it's more like OMG, Silkworms, Rhiad, CD, or The Blues, it will be a big dissapointment and I will have looked forward to it for 15 years for nothing

I really enjoyed CITR .... it was soft but so was other classiscs like November rain and dont cry and estranged ..i think CITR will be a classic then again all of the songs on the album will be classixs

those were some of my least favorites on the Illusion albums, best parts were the solo's and outro's; but i just think the "rock ballad" is worn out and something that should of died in the 80s.
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2006, 04:42:53 PM »

I think that "The Blues", "Madagascar" and "TWAT" will become classics. These are such awesome tunes  smoking
CITR might be a little too soft although I quite like it, I.R.S. and CD are very good also, so yeah i think that Chinese democracy will be more than "just another album".
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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2006, 05:09:09 PM »

I think that "The Blues", "Madagascar" and "TWAT" will become classics. These are such awesome tunes? smoking
CITR might be a little too soft although I quite like it, I.R.S. and CD are very good also, so yeah i think that Chinese democracy will be more than "just another album".

With The Blues and Maddy, if he sings in that voice, it will remind people of what it sounds like to run your nails down a chalkboard for 6 min
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2006, 05:10:44 PM »

I think that "The Blues", "Madagascar" and "TWAT" will become classics. These are such awesome tunes  smoking
CITR might be a little too soft although I quite like it, I.R.S. and CD are very good also, so yeah i think that Chinese democracy will be more than "just another album".

With The Blues and Maddy, if he sings in that voice, it will remind people of what it sounds like to run your nails down a chalkboard for 6 min

Agreed... that voice sounds like an old mans voice.. god hes only in his early 40s... hes gotta put his balls back in his sack and start doing what he does best..
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« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2006, 06:48:29 PM »

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Chinese Democracy Just Another Album?
Negative. It?s more than just another album already. Some even call it the most?..album never exist.

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Can you see CD being a landmark rock record?
Positive. 

like Markus Asraelius I don't care much about whether it changes the scene or not, whether it makes NO1 in the charts or not. If it makes me happy or not is everything.

Some say nevermind changed the scene single-handed and some don't agree. some say nevermind bollocks is a momentous for the rock history and some say that's bollocks. The same is (still more) true with any album of post early 70s, eg the likes of ok computer, I assume. Some guy at Metalsludge may state Dio made 3 landmark albums and I can't even make out what the hell he is talking about.
From a musical point of view, None of them are radically innovative.(donno about dio  Lips Sealed)

Regardless, CD will be loved by a vast number of people all over the world in the long run.

I can see cd being, so to speak, the fruit of the rock music history, into which the important elements in the landmarks are integrated by GNR. Yay.  yes
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« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2006, 06:59:35 PM »

If this is to be a huge album then Axl's best need to get better.? Most of what I have heard so far is mediocre at best.? This album may alienate old fans so Axl had better hope that the kids will gobble this up.? Correction Madgas, teens have a huge percentage of the buying power in the US.

The leaks are far from mediocre imo, but that's niether here nor there. Madagas is spot on. The older demographic is the largest buyer of music. Its been that way for a while now.
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« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2006, 09:49:23 PM »

Here's my 2 cents:

I don't think that it will be just another album, because by today's standards that means 1-2 singles, a couple of decent/listenable songs, and the rest filler. CD will be better than that, even if there no marked improvement in the demos that have been leaked. So, it is likely to be better than 90-95 percent of the stuff  coming out today.

On the other  hand, it is not likely to become a landmark album, at least in the US. If it catches on in Europe then the tide might hit the US, but starting out, no way. Why?

I think hardcore GNR fans have lost sight of how the "average" music fan thinks. The average fan, whether he be 15 or 35, has not heard anything from GNR  for a good 10 years and has moved on. To the extent that the average music fan has heard anything about the new GNR it is likely to have been about Axl's canceled tour, the braids, his weight  gain in 2001, the departure of Slash and Duff, or some  other negative news. There has not been any reason for the average fan to remain interested, nor has there been anything to atract new fans. And, call me cynical, but I don't think the 2,000 people worldwide who visit this site will buy enough albums to catapult the album to platinum status. So no, it will not be landmark album commercially. And musically, from  what I've heard there  is some real potential, but given a choice between CD and AFD, I will choose AFD everytime.
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« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2006, 10:51:32 PM »

I personally feel there is a legitimate arguement to made either way.  Some days I feel CD could knock some life back into the mainstream music scene, but then other days I feel that the way the world is today and the way people's attention spans are so short I think it could be a cool album for 2006, 2007 or whenever it comes out and that'll be it. There doesn't seem to be any real classic albums made these days. Sure people will argue that, but it's a fact that albums aren't haveing the impact that albums like Back in Black, AFD, Joshua Tree, Nevermind, and even O.k. Computer had. Those are landmark albums that everyone recognizes today as classics. I mean those albums were even recoginzed as classics when they were released. I don't really recall any album in the last 7 or 8 years that has really been labbelled a classic or even left a true lasting impression. Nowadays hype and praise for an album is being thrown out like there's no tomorrow and then these bands are forgotten 9 months later. For Example the Arctic Monkeys are the biggest thing since the Beatles apparently and yes they're pretty good but not good enough that we'll be talking about them 2 years from now. CD could have that type of fate or it could be classic. Like I said I think there is a valid arguement to be made for both scenarios. Personally I lean towards there being alot of hype and the album doing real well, but then  9 months later it'll all be forgotten and everyone will be anticipating the new Kanye West or Coldplay or Greenday  album. Or even the next Arctic Monkey type band Undecided
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« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2006, 12:29:45 AM »

Nothing I have heard so far warrants a 14 year delay.? It sounds like OMG was written and recorded in about 15 minutes.? Don't even get me started on Silkworms.


Obviously you know preciously little about the process of modern songwriting and recording.

You might not be very receptive to the idea, but:

OMG is not 15 minutes of writing and recording.

 Its a "protools song".

To me it sounds like Axls first major attempt at a new sound for GNR, with a lot of attention put on the merger of a more industrial sound with the hard rock of old. It sounds like a lot of work and attention to detail in the studio.
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