Where's the Attitude!? The "edge"!? (Better, IRS)

[DoubleTalkingJive]

better is full of balls

I totally agree and I disagree with the curse words...you don't need curse words for the song to have attitude.

[plasmabeam]

I think Axl's matured a bit. I dunno. I think he can convey his feelings in better ways than just saying "hey bitch, fuck you!"...

My thoughts exactly. Words like "fuck" are often used in songs when someone can't think of anything better to say. Axl's had plenty of time to contruct the lyrics, so he put together songs without many expletives.

And don't forget that we've only heard a few songs. There's a good chance that we'll see profanity soaked lyrics on the album.

[mrvics]

What do ya'll think?  Would these songs be a litte more effective with some adult language?


 

Why should you have to cuss to get your point across or make it a killer song?

If you have to saturate a song with the F bomb then you don't have strong material IMO.

The F word used correctly is very effective in getting its point across. But the F word used over and over again loses that effect.

I'm not saying songs should be saturated with the F word.  Just one or two times might be affective.   For example, in Paradise City where he says, "Are you FUCKING blind!?"  is more affective than "are you blind!?"   Just one or two, is all I'm saying.  Especially in IRS.  I feel that Axl is saying in that song that there's nothing left for him to do....last resort....frustration, yet the lyrics seem too nice.    Better does have a little edge to it, especially in the middle with Axl's screams.

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[StoneTempleRoses]

Im sure live IRS will go something like this:

Gonna call the president
gonna call a private eye
gonna need the IRS
gonna get the fuckin FBI
ect.

Ive been singing it like that for awhile anyway 

StoneTempleRoses

[mrvics]

Im sure live IRS will go something like this:

Gonna call the president
gonna call a private eye
gonna need the IRS
gonna get the fuckin FBI
ect.

Ive been singing it like that for awhile anyway 

StoneTempleRoses

That's what I'm talkin about!

[Buddha_Master]

and mrvics kind of proves it right there. That already sounds cool. Gonna get the motherfuckin FBI.

Anyway, I know a lot of rich upscale upperclass from my work here, and from family, and everyone says fuck. Its not a dumb person thing to say at all. Its just a good adjective that has worked its way into our language. It really should be in the dictionary as it is maybe the greatest word ever. No other word can mean so many different things.

And let me tell you fuckers. No one says the word "Fuck" cooler then Axl. No one. I agree...I would like some fucking attitude on Chinese Democracy right along side the works of art like TWAT.

[1badapple]

axl's intelligent enough that he doesn't need to use a bunch of profanity to get his point across.

[VRslash]

a few fuck yous would be nice. but now a days us teenagers like to here the coolest thing are parents dont want us listening to. so fucks cunts bitchs are kind of what we want to hear. but i hope axl hasnt got all seriuse with his lyric's. i hate music like that. its got to have some balls

[Buddha_Master]

axl's intelligent enough that he doesn't need to use a bunch of profanity to get his point across.

And my point is, is that the most intelligent successful people do say the word fuck when they talk and tell stories. Saying the word fuck, doesn't mean you are not intelligent.

[DOASHK]

They dont need to swear, That part in better: i never wanted you to be so full of anger...etc
thats fukin evil

that line is lame and cheasy

[greekmule]

the answer is simple.the ''edge'' is in 3:35-3:40 of the ?6:43 twat version. ?

[Megaguns]

They dont need to swear, That part in better: i never wanted you to be so full of anger...etc
thats fukin evil

that line is lame and cheasy

is it? well... my humble apology.......   

[Sakib]

Does it matter? Maybe when he wrote down the lyrics, he could've written them as they came to his mind and if there's no explicit language, the lyrics that came to his head (or whoever wrote the songs) may have not necessarily had explicit words in.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

curse words dont make a song edgy alone, its all about the context

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

axl is like 44 years old.
let him grow up.

attitude > better at 2:50

[Dave_Rose]

Who cares if Axl doesn't fuck on the album seriously, the lyrics are good as they are we dont need the word hear the word fuck to give some on the edge and to sell albums!

[BluesGNR]

axl's intelligent enough that he doesn't need to use a bunch of profanity to get his point across.

Yeah, I agree.  For some listeners, however, its easier to understand the conveyed emotion if there is a catchword like "fuck" or "shit."  It requires less cognitive ability to understand the message.  I'm indifferent, as long as it is appropriate and fits the song.

[88 Days]

uh, first of all you've heard 3 demos.
second, the attitude in better is cool as hell, listen to the middle part, that's classic axl rose right there.
third, duplicating appetite is something a wash-up would do. axl's the last great non-washed-up rock god, believe me, he'll deliver.

[BluesGNR]

uh, first of all you've heard 3 demos.
second, the attitude in better is cool as hell, listen to the middle part, that's classic axl rose right there.
third, duplicating appetite is something a wash-up would do. axl's the last great non-washed-up rock god, believe me, he'll deliver.

Well put.  It'd be a cold day in hell when Axl releases something of mediocre quality just to quiet the media and/or the fans.  He'll put it out when he's ready and, when he's ready, it will be awesome.  Lets not worry ourselves in the meantime.