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When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Carlos_f_Rose
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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December 20, 2005, 08:30:03 PM »
I think there are more than 2... million of people who dont like the New Gnr, nah just kidding.
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: Carlos GMS on December 20, 2005, 07:52:58 PM
we GNR FANS-- suddenly find GNR ridiculous in some ways, well shouldnt we be supporting those musicians instead of criticizing' em.?
No. we can be the most diehard fans on the planet but that does not mean we have to agree with everything said or done by Axl or Slash or anybody else. being a fan means supporting them and wanting the best for them through thick and thin, but it does not mean we have to agree with and justify their actions through thick and thin. honestly i get sick when I read about fans of any band who have to defend an asshole rock star simply because they feel they cant be fans unless they do.
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Well guys, dont missunderstand me, I think we must criticize them as fans, but in this thread we were reaching a point where we not only criticize, but also make a mockery of what they did.
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: Carlos GMS on December 21, 2005, 12:09:40 AM
Well guys, dont missunderstand me, I think we must criticize them as fans, but in this thread we were reaching a point where we not only criticize, but also make a mockery of what they did.? ?
It isn't about us making a mockery of GNR. Its about GNR making a mockery of themselves.
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Quote from: Charlie GMS on December 20, 2005, 07:52:58 PM
Hi guys... I was thinking more about this thread, and its kind of funny how -- we GNR FANS-- suddenly find GNR ridiculous in some ways, well shouldnt we be supporting those musicians instead of criticizing' em.?
Well, IMO, this band is NOT GnR, just trying to make a buck off the name. So i have absolutely no problem criticizing them. IMO, VR is more GnR than GnR
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: jmapelian on December 22, 2005, 10:10:18 AM
Quote from: Charlie GMS on December 20, 2005, 07:52:58 PM
Hi guys... I was thinking more about this thread, and its kind of funny how -- we GNR FANS-- suddenly find GNR ridiculous in some ways, well shouldnt we be supporting those musicians instead of criticizing' em.?
Well, IMO, this band is NOT GnR, just trying to make a buck off the name.? So i have absolutely no problem criticizing them.? IMO, VR is more GnR than GnR
Good for you.
Maybe you'll figure out "soon" that people like yourself aren't in the majority here and might not feel very welcome.
The name "discussion" has been done a few times already.
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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With all respect guys, I agree with Jmapelian, VR has more Old GNR feeling than New GNR, but its cool that they released an album and played mostly their songs, I didnt like the fact that Axl toured with old GNR songs, even if Axl owns the name.
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For me, GN'R "jumped the shark" when the Use Your Illusions albums came out because of two things. First off, not saying the UYI albums sucked or anything, but they didn't have that nasty edge that the first two albums from "the most dangerous band in the world" had (call it overproduction or whatever). Secondly, for a band that supposedly didn't give a f**k about anything, songs like Get in the Ring showed they were actually pretty soft when it came to criticism and bad reviews to the point that it was almost embarrasing. I still love the original band but I've never thought of them the same.
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: OneEye on December 27, 2005, 03:54:08 PM
For me, GN'R "jumped the shark" when the Use Your Illusions albums came out because of two things.? First off, not saying the UYI albums sucked or anything, but they didn't have that nasty edge that the first two albums from "the most dangerous band in the world" had (call it overproduction or whatever).? Secondly, for a band that supposedly didn't give a f**k about anything, songs like Get in the Ring showed they were actually pretty soft when it came to criticism and bad reviews to the point that it was almost embarrasing.? I still love the original band but I've never thought of them the same.?
good point made there about not handling critisicm
classic golden era GNR didnt need to stoop to the level of a blatant turkey like Get in the ring - they were a gang that let the music do the talking and Get in the ring was the creative nadir of UYI
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Quote from: Slash Rose on February 27, 2004, 09:33:25 PM
I thought Clear Channel pulled the plug on the tour
It has not been 100% established who cancelled the tour...but it's on the band that there was NO explanation and NO apology
Here's another possibility: When Moby was working with Axl
If something is to go legal, it is best not to say anything
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Re:When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: Mysteron on December 27, 2005, 04:19:54 PM
Quote from: NickNastyIII: The Return on February 28, 2004, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: Slash Rose on February 27, 2004, 09:33:25 PM
I thought Clear Channel pulled the plug on the tour
It has not been 100% established who cancelled the tour...but it's on the band that there was NO explanation and NO apology
Here's another possibility: When Moby was working with Axl
If something is to go legal, it is best not to say anything
Philly happened more than 3 years ago. Did it go to legal, but we haven't heard of it? Or it was just a sentence and didn't have anything to do with what Nick said?
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I would take that to mean that Mysteron believes it went legal
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Quote from: jimmythegent on December 27, 2005, 04:29:50 PM
I would take that to mean that Mysteron believes it went legal
I'm sure that must be a well known fact by now
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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And did anything happen in the last 3 years? I mean legal things. There were trials, etc, but they kept it secret?
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Quote from: Mysteron on December 27, 2005, 04:33:21 PM
Quote from: jimmythegent on December 27, 2005, 04:29:50 PM
I would take that to mean that Mysteron believes it went legal
I'm sure that must be a well known fact by now
I dont believe there has been anything stated legal or otherwise
Perhaps you could clarify it for us?
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Re: When Did GNR "Jump the Shark?"
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Quote from: jimmythegent on December 27, 2005, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Mysteron on December 27, 2005, 04:33:21 PM
Quote from: jimmythegent on December 27, 2005, 04:29:50 PM
I would take that to mean that Mysteron believes it went legal
I'm sure that must be a well known fact by now
I dont believe there has been anything stated legal or otherwise
Perhaps you could clarify it for us?
Mysteron's offline. Just a sec, I'm gonna go turn on the Batman/mysteron signal.
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