Suicide.

[journey]

I think it's selfish to say that because some people love us, we can't die.

I think it's also selfish to think that the way we are loved is how one SHOULD be loved or wants to be loved.

So if my man hits me, and i want to die, you're going to say " hey, don't do it, he loves you, with his fists but he does" ?


What sort of shit is that ?

I understand what you're saying.? No one should stay in a physically abusive relationship. But suicide isn't the way to leave that relationship. The abuser will just move on to someone else and probably hit her as well. She shouldn't let him chase her out of her own life. Instead of ending her life, she should fight for it--it's hers.

[ClintroN]

You know, this whole talk goes to show that some people don't seem to understand how tired some people can be.

I know for i have wanted to end it, and have friends who have ( mostly on drugs at the time).

Do you know how much energy it takes to fight back ?

How do you take what you already gave to survive ?

Have you, in your life, ever thought " oh what a cycle of shit !!!! "

I don't mean weeks or months of shit, but years ?


Now imagine some people have had shit from the beginning and imagine after DECADES, it's still not ended.

Imagine they hoped, time after time after time and yet, despite all changes they made to themselves or their lifes, something always brings them back into the pot of shit ?


I don't judge ...

Personally, now, iwouldn't commit suicide i think, because i believe i have answers waiting for me in my life and until i got them, i am not going anywhere.

whats your prob. sounds like you actually support this shit, if life is a never ending cycle of shit then fuckin' do somethin' about it, dont complain n' say suicide is ok, its bullshit.

What makes people think there gonna get away with it, personally i think you stay a lost soul, anyone who thinks suicide is ok  can get fucked!!

And if you say that n' havnt dealt with someone who had taken there own life then your totaly fucked!

[Sin Cut]

This is so hypocrite

There's a huge buzz about her death, my boss the stump has elevated herself as a helping "cough hand cough"person.

Maybe it would've been good to notice her when she was alive instead of having some memorial-meeting and talking how she is now in peace and moved from time to eternity. And then read some bible.

What is this, some circus where to promote yourself "See how I handle this crisis"?

And if someone feel the need to really talk about his/her feeling just maybe it should be done with a professional, instead of some wannabe.

sheez.

[Jessica]

You know, this whole talk goes to show that some people don't seem to understand how tired some people can be.

I know for i have wanted to end it, and have friends who have ( mostly on drugs at the time).

Do you know how much energy it takes to fight back ?

How do you take what you already gave to survive ?

Have you, in your life, ever thought " oh what a cycle of shit !!!! "

I don't mean weeks or months of shit, but years ?


Now imagine some people have had shit from the beginning and imagine after DECADES, it's still not ended.

Imagine they hoped, time after time after time and yet, despite all changes they made to themselves or their lifes, something always brings them back into the pot of shit ?


I don't judge ...

Personally, now, iwouldn't commit suicide i think, because i believe i have answers waiting for me in my life and until i got them, i am not going anywhere.

whats your prob. sounds like you actually support this shit, if life is a never ending cycle of shit then fuckin' do somethin' about it, dont complain n' say suicide is ok, its bullshit.

What makes people think there gonna get away with it, personally i think you stay a lost soul, anyone who thinks suicide is ok  can get fucked!!

And if you say that n' havnt dealt with someone who had taken there own life then your totaly fucked!

I say i " understand".

Life isn't so black and white as to support something or not support it, why would i have to take sides for something or its opposite ?

There are other choices.

I do not have the right to judge someone's choice.

My life is dedicated to people who suffer in more ways than YOU could possibly imagine, to accompany the living a lot of times and to help them accept death, upcoming deaths, illnesses, etc etc...

Should someone choose death over life, it's their own decision and i am there for them just as much as i'd be for anyone else.

I do not believe in christianity, therefore the whole " you will become a fallen angel" shit does not do anything to me and i do not believe suicide is the reason to the whys of lost souls.
Another topic.

Now, you can think what you like for i don't give a shit.

But i think it takes far much more courage to admit being weak and admit failure rather than pretend and fight thin air in hope of nothing.

My opinion.

[Genesis]

Should someone choose death over life, it's their own decision and i am there for them just as much as i'd be for anyone else.

Scary. 

[Jessica]

Should someone choose death over life, it's their own decision and i am there for them just as much as i'd be for anyone else.

Scary. 

No, it's not.

Many people, the sick ones, for instance, choose to die, with or withoutr medical help.

Some nurses ( for instance) have a role to accompany the people towards death, not judge how they got close to it.
They are called alexandra nurses and are beautiful people.

I see death as a journey. Not an end.

[Mr. Dick Purple]

I totally respect your opinions Jessica but one thing is to die or let yourself die for some desease and another different is to use a gun and put a bullet in your brain or jump from some cliff, that's the thing Im not supporting.
Ok you are not a christian catholic or whatever religion people are used to lead, but I know for sure that you don't want a close friend to end his/her life just because he/she can't handle the problems he/she has been through.

[journey]

i moved to tasmania australia 3 months ago from new south wales australia, when i moved here i knew what i was in for, left all of my friends and family, basicly on my own, accept for my new employer that seemed like a good bloke, anyway, i just wanted adventure, After about 8 weeks of being completely alone i noticed small differences in my behavior. To cut to the chase_ a few friends of mine flew down here last weekend to go to the cricket (AUSTRALIA VS WEST INDIES) cos i live just up the road from the oval, anyhow..... on friday night it was such an awesome night but then i lost my mates at about 4am and caught a cab home, when i got home i rang one of them and said id leave the door unlocked, during this time i had been looking for somethin to hang myself with, I had my guitar lead tied around my neck about to string myself up when they walked in....... and now im gladf they did... they kept asking me why and i said ,i dont know.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Its some fucked up shit, and it frightened the hell out of me. i dont want to end my life but that night i did. and i was balling my eyes out to my mates telling them i dont know why. and i still dont know why. fact is that im alone here and have no friends my age, i moved here for work reasons. insights please? i really freaked my mates out...

I'm sorry you're having a hard time. If you're that unhappy with where you're living, I would suggest moving back to where you used to live. No job is worth that kind of pain. Your friends seem to care a lot about you. It would be best to call or email them when you're having problems, instead of trying to handle it all by yourself. It doesn't mean you're weak if you ask for help. Everybody needs attention and love when they're hurting.

There are a few things to keep depression away. Drinking and drugs should be avoided. Alcohol and pot have depressants in them, which effect your mood drastically. Cutting back on caffeine is also beneficial. Sleeping a lot, or not sleeping enough, can cause depression. It may help if you take a walk in the mornings. Exercising is great for your overall well being.

I'm obviously not a professional, but I've been to therapy a few times, and that's some of the advice I was given. I hope it's helpful.

[Oddy]

even though i'll never know what its like to be in the shoes of a suicidal person and understand what they're going through........i just can't see how suicide is the answer.

to me life overall is a good thing. yeah you get shit and bad things happen........but there's some good too. even if its mostly bad its all an experience. if you throw life away you have nothing. its the experiences of life whether good or bad that make it worth while to soldier on.

sorry to get all hippy on everyone.

although..........if i were to lose my hands or unable to play guitar or atleast some musical instrument. shit i'd be pretty suicidal it'd be hard to stop me to get that noose.

[D]

Short and Sweet.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone who kills themselves.

i find those people weak willed and gutless.


I dont care how bad life gets it will always get better if u give it a chance.

Why kill yourself?

People have to realize that life is about disappointments and u just gotta carry on and learn to deal with it.

I would love to hear a good reason why someone would kill themselves cause I cant think of one that is valid.

[Sin Cut]

Sometimes it just seems a good idea, when you feel like shit and aren't sure if you can make it, kind of like I feel now.

[RichardNixon]

It's terrible and wrong to condemn or judge others for committing suicide, writing it off as "cowardly." We have no idea what's running through people's minds, or how sick they really are.

[Guns N RockMusic]

If suicide was the coward's way out, there'd be alot more deaths in our world.  You can call it selfish to do, but I think it more selfish to demand someone stick around when their world is shit.  I'm not talking about a bad day, week or even month.  We're talking about years of shit where there is no sign of it getting any better.  Sometimes you have to cut your losses.  I'm not condoning suicide as each person and circumstances are unique; but I'm sure as hell not condeming it either.

[Eazy E]

Just found out that someone from my high school committed suicide a few days ago.  It's really an awkward situation because the news is being passed around, while everyone knows that the entire school gave this guy a really hard time in high school.

There are always the kids that get picked on in high school and he was a target right away.  I think he had mental problems, but no one ever had it confirmed, he may have just been very awkward.  Anyways, in Grade 9 he had to wear cotton in his ears because I believe they would start to bleed sometimes.  This made him a huge target and he never lived it down the next 4 years.  He was also an absolute asshole to everyone that talked to him, but I would guess that's a defense mechanism.

A lot of people seem to feel his treatment in high school is responsible for him killing himself.  I think that may have played a part, but I keep telling people that it's 3 years later and I'm sure there are much more serious reasons why he would go through with something like this.  I'm not entirely sure what to think of the situation, but I feel bad for him and his family.  It also reminded me about how downright mean and inconsiderate people at a young age can be.