Merck comments on Axl vs Slash

[norway]

Other members may bring him stuff they think is cool, but if he doesn't like it it's not going anywhere near his album.

same thing happen 2 alot of material on oldgnr, but i guess you won't call that axl's solo-project ?
I'm whith jarmo an ppbebe on this, he aknowledges axl's talent and people don't like. ?
But is cool, and is very succesfull ?

[younggunner]

lol,sorry ive been super busy the past week or so..
and its only going to get worse. Baseball starts sunday and Ill be in school, buses and on baseball fields from sunday till May.
Plus Ill be away for 10 days in FLorida for Baseball as well. Last year I come home from that same trip and foud out that Bucket left the band ...nothing better happen this year. I hate missing a beat. Actually I called my sister last year to read me the headlines off the main page to keep me updated lol. GNR is an addiction..

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

From what I

From what I recall, Slash and Duff have made comments about axl's contributions to past songs; why is it so horrible that someone stands up and defends axl's talents?

that is exactly how i took the comment - it's apparent that Merck has heard these comments specifically made by Duff.

"We wrote the music without Axl" - Bass Guitar World
"Axl never wrote any of the music..." - later retracted by Duff who gave Axl credit for "My World" 
'We wrote all the music... rehearsed the music.... sometimes had the lyrics already written... Axl just came in at the end' (paraphrasing as I can't find the exact source/quote at the moment)

...he's saying everybody has downlayed Axl's role in the band, crediting Slash, Izzy etc and not credited Axl enough, because he's the asshole who broke up the band.

/jarmo

surely Merck is aware of many 'fans' animosity towards Axl, may times fueled by comments from former members.
I think its cool that he is speaking up on Axl's behalf.   

[RICHEY]

Same bullshit different asshole.We heard this from Tommy,Dizzy,Ronnie,Bonnie,and Tiny Tim. Merck bashed slash to get press, since Axl's career is at an all time fucking low. If the album is so amazing and will piss all over GNR's past work GIVE US A RELEASE DATE! But that is out of the question boys and girls! So Merck who also fronts a band called DIO told us all we needed to know......"But you got to have a little patience" Get it? HA! HA! HA! MELTING POT??

[killingvector]

Same bullshit different asshole.We heard this from Tommy,Dizzy,Ronnie,Bonnie,and Tiny Tim. Merck bashed slash to get press, since Axl's career is at an all time fucking low. If the album is so amazing and will piss all over GNR's past work GIVE US A RELEASE DATE! But that is out of the question boys and girls! So Merck who also fronts a band called DIO told us all we needed to know......"But you got to have a little patience" Get it? HA! HA! HA! MELTING POT? 

wow, you should issue that as a press release. With such logic and insight, we should all defer to your good graces. Lousy self hating axl bashers.

[christina_rose]

That's your take on what he said. Another way of seeing it is that he's saying everybody has downlayed Axl's role in the band, crediting Slash, Izzy etc and not credited Axl enough, because he's the asshole who broke up the band.

*applaudes*  Thank you Jarmo. My sentinments exactly. Well done.

[Jim Bob]

I dont get how some of these axl bashers can call themselves GnR fans.  Whether you people like it or not Guns N' Roses is Axl's band and there aint jack shit you can do about it so shut the fuck up and stop complaining about it.. or go to a fucking VR forum.

Merck seems like a very intelligent guy.  Its great to see someone like this involved in Guns.   He makes a positive statement about Axl and the new album and some people rip him to shreds   

$lash and Matt Soreass have been slagging Axl and spewing their garbage to the press for a few years now.  Its about time someone stepped up and defended Axl.  read what he said one more time.  it was a response to things $lash has said in the past.   And besides, what Merck says is 100% true.

Cheers Merck! 

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Same bullshit different asshole.We heard this from Tommy,Dizzy,Ronnie,Bonnie,and Tiny Tim. Merck bashed slash to get press, since Axl's career is at an all time fucking low. If the album is so amazing and will piss all over GNR's past work GIVE US A RELEASE DATE! But that is out of the question boys and girls! So Merck who also fronts a band called DIO told us all we needed to know......"But you got to have a little patience" Get it? HA! HA! HA! MELTING POT?

wow, you should issue that as a press release. With such logic and insight, we should all defer to your good graces. Lousy self hating axl bashers.

 

That's your take on what he said. Another way of seeing it is that he's saying everybody has downlayed Axl's role in the band, crediting Slash, Izzy etc and not credited Axl enough, because he's the asshole who broke up the band.

*applaudes* Thank you Jarmo. My sentinments exactly. Well done.

 

I dont get how some of these axl bashers can call themselves GnR fans. Whether you people like it or not Guns N' Roses is Axl's band and there aint jack shit you can do about it so shut the fuck up and stop complaining about it.. or go to a fucking VR forum.

Merck seems like a very intelligent guy. Its great to see someone like this involved in Guns. He makes a positive statement about Axl and the new album and some people rip him to shreds

$lash and Matt Soreass have been slagging Axl and spewing their garbage to the press for a few years now. Its about time someone stepped up and defended Axl. read what he said one more time. it was a response to things $lash has said in the past. And besides, what Merck says is 100% true.

Cheers Merck!

 

love it! 
you did mean Sorebum though didn't ya?

hey its not like Axl himself came out and say this  ... however, judging from the response to Merck's comments, if/when Axl does make reply to all the fuckin' shit that has been spewed by Slash 'there really isn't anyone else to blame but Axl' Hudson, Matt 'what's with the piano' Sorum, and Duff 'we wrote the music without Axl' McKagan (*takes breath*) - if/when he does reply there will be major    from some fans...

something like this perhaps:  "Can you believe Axl said that? I mean my god. I mean he hasn't put out a record. I don't know why he would say that. I mean who does he think he is? That's not very nice. The other guys, they have gotten over it and they're his friend now and they're willing to be his friend and he just needs to grow up."

 

[Jim Bob]

Duff 'we wrote the music without Axl' McKagan (*takes breath*)

you mean Duff 'we wrote the music without Axl, oh wait I dont even remember anything from 1989-1995' McKagan

something like this perhaps:  "Can you believe Axl said that? I mean my god. I mean he hasn't put out a record. I don't know why he would say that. I mean who does he think he is? That's not very nice. The other guys, they have gotten over it and they're his friend now and they're willing to be his friend and he just needs to grow up."

i like your posts!! i can tell ur one of the great fans.   

[norway]

eva is one of the cool ones, many cool people here,  but a diverse board.

Hey, so funny merch didn't answer the question? i wonder when will that be?

[jarmo]

Merch = short for merchandise

Merck = short for Merck Mercuriadis, CEO for the Sanctuary Group and manager of GN'R





/jarmo

[norway]

yeah, i mean merchandise mercuriadus 

[killingvector]

Is there any Merck Merch floating around the net?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

edit:? intended for pm
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Is there any Merck Merch floating around the net?

well...  looks like he's endorsing this very lovely HTGTH T-shirt 

LOL!
sorry... i just had to!

[reynics22]

If we can get past over-analysing two lines of text from merck on if he thinks the album is good or not, we could look at the fact that Sanctuary (on the face of it) appears to be a really great group who put the two most important people in music first; the artist and the real fan. I enjoyed reading the interview, and merch seems like a real music-head who looks for purety and soul in music; which is what i love about axl's work.

I miss reading your posts on a day to day basis on the newgnr.com

well said 2na.

[D]

what he said about axl's talents are 100 percent true

however

he doesnt have to slag off on slash and the old band to gain more approval for Axl.

dont tell us, show us

thats where i stand


The significance of Izzy and Slash cannot be downplayed as if Axl was the mastermind telling them what to play

to me thats how Merck comes off and i dont like it.

To me Merck seems like the dudes Mike Tyson had during his Don King era

guys who were hangers on and wouldnt tell Mike the truth or control him which ultimately helped lead to his demise

Merck needs to be axl's manager, not his best friend and publicist.
he needs to get axl to release the cd, then we can all judge for ourselves.

even if CD is the greatest record ever made, it still will not take away from the old bands contributions on the old material.


praise axl all u want

but dont shit on slash and co. to do so.

[DIABOLIK]

Merck has been able to do something that the rest of us have not whihc is hear Axl's new music versus that of Velvet Revolver.? Since Contraband is nothing special (and if Contraband had come out as a GNR record everyone would be up in arms about how weak it is BUT because it's Slash and Duff fans are willing to overlook the obvious and yes I did buy mine the week it came out) if that's what Slash considers "doing it for the fans" then he better come up with better material.? Fall To Pieces is nothing compared to November Rain or Estranged and if Slither or any other VR song was on UYI they would have been overshadowed by the likes of Pretty Tied Up or You Could Be Mine or Dead horse.? Maybe what Merck is saying is that Slash gets all this credit for the guitarwork and songwriting that without having Axl's input anymore, Slash ain't all that (see Snakepit).? Many great guitarists can't write great songs.? They can shred (Steve Vai), they can come up with riffs or parts (John Sykes), but as far as writing great songs that actually mean something, they can't do it.? By understanding what a great hook or melody is, like when Slash wanted to remove the intro bit, his signature, to Sweet Child and Axl managed to convince Slash to keep it, then maybe what Merck is saying is valid. Contraband gives me no reason to believe otherwise.

[Nytunz]

Merck has been able to do something that the rest of us have not whihc is hear Axl's new music versus that of Velvet Revolver.? Since Contraband is nothing special (and if Contraband had come out as a GNR record everyone would be up in arms about how weak it is BUT because it's Slash and Duff fans are willing to overlook the obvious and yes I did buy mine the week it came out) if that's what Slash considers "doing it for the fans" then he better come up with better material.

I agree in this part.. I think the record is OK! But nothing more! If it would be the new GNR record, it would really be a disapointment!

? Fall To Pieces is nothing compared to November Rain or Estranged and if Slither or any other VR song was on UYI they would have been overshadowed by the likes of Pretty Tied Up or You Could Be Mine or Dead horse.

I Dont agree! Remember, Songs like Estranged and November Rain cant be compared to VR songs! In any way! The music style is so different! And thats whay the old GNR ended! Because Slash n Duff whanted to play more straight ahead Rock n roll! And not the masterpiece thing that Axl whanted!
?

Maybe what Merck is saying is that Slash gets all this credit for the guitarwork and songwriting that without having Axl's input anymore, Slash ain't all that (see Snakepit).? Many great guitarists can't write great songs.? They can shred (Steve Vai), they can come up with riffs or parts (John Sykes), but as far as writing great songs that actually mean something, they can't do it.? By understanding what a great hook or melody is, like when Slash wanted to remove the intro bit, his signature, to Sweet Child and Axl managed to convince Slash to keep it, then maybe what Merck is saying is valid. Contraband gives me no reason to believe otherwise.

Snakepit is also an OK albume. And there are som great Guitarwork on it! But it dont appeal to the BIG audience! Dont have the kind of melody that Axl is really good in making!

[mikegiuliana]

I agree 100 percent with Naupis

Merck is axl's manager of course he is gonna lick axl's balls

anyone who doesnt think Slash's contributions in GNR were significant dont deserve to call themselves GNR fans.

the solo's,riffs etc are just as memorable to me than any Axl melody or lyric.

just cause Slash isnt in the band, that doesnt mean u have to take sides

i love both those guys and im not gonna choose between them.

I agree with you and rythm n booze..

[ppbebe]

I think the record is OK! But nothing more! If it would be the new GNR record, it would really be a disapointment!

Ditto, Nytunz!

the first 2 weeks, I really enjoyed the Contra but afterwards hmm.....it's not my fault I'm caprocious by nature and listening to Whitestripes more often. It was only rock n' roll and nothing more on balance.
Yeah music is one of the time arts.
not to mention new GN'R tunes haven't bored me yet after two years. I myself find it strange though.

Same bullshit different asshole.We heard this from Tommy,Dizzy,Ronnie,Bonnie,and Tiny Tim.   

Haha, I've been waiting for the post like yours since I first saw this thread.