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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2005, 09:38:25 PM »

1 - as opposed to going for someone cooler, smaller, better, friends,

What are you talking about?? Obviously they went with the one that suited them best in all aspects.? Theyve expressed nothing but praise for RCA, so they must be cool and friendly.? Youre really grasping at straws to form some kind of point, but its just not there.

i don't know...

You should stick with that..

they went for the one who gave them the most money....

And what if the one that gave them the most money also happened to be the best?? Scott Weiland was the most famous nominee for frontman - was he picked because he was famous or because he the best man for the job?? If hes both (and he is), then theres no question...Why would they settle for a label they didnt want?? So you wont think theyre simply in it for the money?? Roll Eyes

2 - So scott didn't change they lyrics so that more radio stations would play Slither more often??

Instead of skimming through information to make poorly-formed points, you should really think about what were discussing.? When "Slither" first began getting airplay, there was apparently an issue with the word "poppies" being used.? Obviously, that problem didnt last long, but when it arose Scott chose to change the word to "nazis," as a reference to what he deemed an opressive decision.? If Scott didnt choose to alter the word, the song still would have been played - like every other song with questionable content - only with a mute over the word.? Understand?? The song would have been played regardless, it was only a matter of which form of editing Scott was most comfortable with, and he used it to make a statement.? Ultimately, it didnt seem to matter since "poppies" has been intact everytime Ive heard the song.?

He said he didn't like it, but did it for the silver anyways...

Like I said, the song would have gotten played anyway, whether he chose to alter it or not.?

By the way, this just in!? Axl admits to doing his new album for the money!

"Money. You get what you play for and nothing?s free. Can you cover the cost of this venture and its financial potential that I am just supposed to walk away from and for what?" - Axl Rose

See how comments can be taken out of context?? ok

Whats up with this Contact Music thing anyway?? Theyve put out like 25 of these Slash stories in 2 hours.? confused



why would scott choose to change his lyrics tho and state that he did not like it at all, just a minor detail, fuck it..

and how can you be so sure that the package they got from RCA was the one they wanted the most?


 i totaly agree with you, and the line where the roporter talks about force is a typical fucked up reporter line.... the rest sounds resonable tho don't it?
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2005, 10:14:52 PM »

In the interview VR did with Much More Music back in Feb or March Scott, Duff and Dave all said the reason they signed with RCA was b/c RCA gave them total control with their album.  They let the boys record their album on their terms. They didn't stop in and say maye you should do this, perhaps this would work better ect.  They let the guys do their thing and they gave RCA the album when they were done.

Slash also talked about how Mr. Cleve Davis himself meet with the group to get them to sign with RCA. As opposed to just dealing with some record rep.

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2005, 01:18:53 AM »

why would scott choose to change his lyrics tho and state that he did not like it at all, just a minor detail, fuck it..

For the third time:

He chose to alter the word "poppies" to "Nazis" in reference to the pressure he recieved from radio and MTV to censor the word.  He didnt like the fact that "poppies" was being censored, thats why he was unhappy with changing it, but in changing it, he made that same point.  I truly dont understand why thats hard to comprehend, and Im trying to be as clear as possible.

and how can you be so sure that the package they got from RCA was the one they wanted the most?

 Huh

Because thats the one they chose?


i totaly agree with you, and the line where the roporter talks about force is a typical fucked up reporter line.... the rest sounds resonable tho don't it?

Not really, no.  What it comes down to is that the VR guys arent different from any other group of people doing music for a living.  Theyre passionate about what they do, and they also want to make the best living possible.  And singling them out and twisting information, such as their sigining with RCA, to make them out to be desperate for money or whatever is just silly.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2005, 06:19:59 AM »


Not really, no.? What it comes down to is that the VR guys arent different from any other group of people doing music for a living.? Theyre passionate about what they do, and they also want to make the best living possible.? And singling them out and twisting information, such as their sigining with RCA, to make them out to be desperate for money or whatever is just silly.

So what is not reasonable then  Huh, i didn't single out any of them to make vr or any of them look desperate for money, i never said that any of them were beeing desperate, i just stated that i believe the money has a huge saying in vr just like the bandmembers keep saying over and over and you agree so get a grip...

I think that when they desided to start the project it was more of a desperation to rock and get out there, not to make cash..  it's just fuckin' stupid tho, not to believe what slash says, he admits it for gods sake and has done several times, it's a part of the package when they are at that level sure... He (slash) has said it several times that he didn't have that much money left from his previousely work so what are you getting at? You emphasise what i say, but you don't disagree with me do you? which is cool... i'm not a fucking vr nor gn'r encyclopedia so i'm happy to be corrected at any point, thats why i'm here, to learn...

do you have a hard time believeing that slash doesn' have that much money or what?

I do think vr is different from other proffesional musicians tho. They have almost legend like status and everything going for them, they have all sold millions of records before and have been around the world several times, they have all had their drugs probs and so on, now they're clean and wants to secure theyr future no biggie.
everything they do can be defended, but i'm not so sure they haven't sold theyr ass for a few extra millions... it's not like they kept the fuck it fuck all attitude hihi
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2005, 09:21:27 PM »


I believe that after GN'R Slash and Duff must have been broke, but I don't believe money was a factor in forming VR.
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2005, 02:36:44 AM »

no way were slash and duff broke after GNR. or at least, they might have been "broke" as in, have to get a job. but i'm sure the fact that AFD sells a million a year worldwide or whatever it is on top of other GNR sales they make a steady income. i don't know if it would be enough to never work again, but i can't see why considering they are all credited as writers of the songs too. so whenever welcome to the jungle gets licensed to a GFA game, they get cheques too.

as for being in it for the money, what a piece of crap article!  confused
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2005, 09:35:24 AM »

No where in the article does Slash get quoted for only rocking for the money.  The title of this thread is a little misleading.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2005, 10:56:42 AM »

If the members of GNR really need money how can you explain Izzy avoiding commercial success at every opportunity and Axl's lack of progress over the last 10 years.
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2005, 11:45:58 AM »

Axl and Izzy earned the most of all the GN'R members cause of the songwriting credits. I don't think that Slash and Duff did it for the money, cause they earned alot aswell and they're not "big spenders".

On the other hand, Matt was broke when they formed VR... So I don't know about him. Matt said that he didn't end up with a whole lot of money after GN'R cause Axl did everthing he could to take it away from him after he was fired.
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2005, 01:31:13 PM »

Axl and Izzy earned the most of all the GN'R members cause of the songwriting credits. I don't think that Slash and Duff did it for the money, cause they earned alot aswell and they're not "big spenders".

On the other hand, Matt was broke when they formed VR... So I don't know about him. Matt said that he didn't end up with a whole lot of money after GN'R cause Axl did everthing he could to take it away from him after he was fired.

I think that Slash had at least as much money as Izzy thanks to TSI, guest appearances and first of all the UYI tours.
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2005, 02:20:14 PM »

Axl and Izzy earned the most of all the GN'R members cause of the songwriting credits. I don't think that Slash and Duff did it for the money, cause they earned alot aswell and they're not "big spenders".

On the other hand, Matt was broke when they formed VR... So I don't know about him. Matt said that he didn't end up with a whole lot of money after GN'R cause Axl did everthing he could to take it away from him after he was fired.

I think that Slash had at least as much money as Izzy thanks to TSI, guest appearances and first of all the UYI tours.

yeah i think izzy said no to alot of cash when he didn't want to tour anymore... that tour(uyi) paid very well i believe!
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2005, 10:36:58 PM »

Boy the media really sucks sometimes. Even if they are in it for the money None of those quotes really says that. Yet the writer claims slash made some sort of admission and by the headline alot of really dumb people will believe it.
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