Can Axl redeem himself?

[mikegiuliana]

Redeem himself??? He has done nothing to disappoint me yet. There's no clear proof that he was responsable for the concert cancels,and from what I know,he's just taking his time to create an album I'll love.

Whenever I have doubts,I watch the RIR bootleg.

I think with three guitairsts they could have done some much better promo material for the shows..That's just how I feel.. This is gnr , so being a older fan I have been waiting since the illusions for the new material, so it has been a disappointment to me..

[ClintroN]

Redeem himself??

Yes


Restore himself to his "Savior of Rock" "Face of Rock" status??

I don't think so, just because the idea of a "Rock Star" is sort of a bloated 70'- 80's concept. One man will never get that sort of attention again (unless things change (could he change them?))

"Video killed the radio star".........well, "Nirvana killed the Rock Star"

Fuckin' oath Axl has what it takes to have it back, name one other singer that can take the crowny, sure there out there but who els can acheive it, i beleive this album is gonna seriously fuck with the way things are today, fuck the top 50 n' fuck all that nonsence. For the record i do beleive this GnR with have the some if not more success then ol' GnR, WHY THE FUCK NOT

[Acquiesce]

I guess I must ask what do you mean by redeem himself. If you mean can he redeem himself to the fans, my answer would be for the most part he doesn't need to do that. Most fans will forget everything once the CD is released.

If you mean redeem himself with the press I would say that is unlikely. He will always have his reputation with them.

Do you mean the public in general? I think that is unlikely, too. He is not going to be the savior of rock again because the music climate is entirely different today.

[D]

axl will be the biggest thing music wise once he comes back

the darkness are such a fuckin joke, they are ok but they are more of a spinal tap novelty band to me then a serious rock n roll band, they are like a cliche or almost like they are playin the part of a rock star, they dont seem authentic and genuine to me.


Scott is awesome and there is no one like him right now, so imagine when axl comes back with something incredible, it will be the biggest comeback ever.

[mikegiuliana]

Scott is awesome and there is no one like him right now, so imagine when axl comes back with something incredible, it will be the biggest comeback ever.

I just hope axl wants everything we do...

[neko]

well i think he cant be the Savior of Rock , for the fans of course yes,but for the general public? the same crap of music will be played on mtv even with Axl , he would inspired new generations and that would be cool , there are now many young bands that are inspired by Axl but they are not in mtv , the main thing is that everything that makes a change then becomes popular and then becomes overused , for example the rap ,  rap is execelent , not the one that is on mtv all the day, thats a joke not rap , so the bad thing is not the music as rap , rock , etc , its the kind of overused make money that companys start doing when something is big , so Axl can change a face of Rock again , but that wont last,  then the Rock would be popular again and you know whats the next thing.

[Mattman]

well i think he cant be the Savior of Rock , for the fans of course yes,but for the general public? the same crap of music will be played on mtv even with Axl , he would inspired new generations and that would be cool , there are now many young bands that are inspired by Axl but they are not in mtv , the main thing is that everything that makes a change then becomes popular and then becomes overused , for example the rap ,? rap is execelent , not the one that is on mtv all the day, thats a joke not rap , so the bad thing is not the music as rap , rock , etc , its the kind of overused make money that companys start doing when something is big , so Axl can change a face of Rock again , but that wont last,? then the Rock would be popular again and you know whats the next thing.

AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH ENOUGH WITH THE COMMMAS!  Full sentences, please!

Ahem.  I think that the only way MTV will stop being a rap-o-centric station is if someone comes along and has a Nirvana-size effect on music, completely overturning past trends in favour of a new sound.  Unfortunately, even if he has the musical balls to do it, Axl can't do that, simply because there is an unspoken ageism in rock music.  I'm as guilty as the next guy in that regard, often dismissive of acts over 40 years old (except for Neil Young).  Axl can become very popular, but he won't change the face of music.

Back to the main topic of this thread.  I think Axl NEEDS to redeem himself at this point.  His last tour became kind of a caricature of himself - the late/missed shows, the ego, etc.  In the last tour he rested mainly on the laurels of Appetite, and no matter how much you guys say you like the new band, I'm never going to have respect for them if they remain an Appetite For Destruction cover band - they have to begin playing their own material.  I don't want to hear Slash's solos played unless they're by Slash - I want to hear a solo by Robin Finck or Richard Fortus (well, truthfully, I want to hear a solo by Buckethead, but so much for that).  Axl needs to redeem himself as a MUSICIAN, first and foremost.

[November Rain 91]

I guess I must ask what do you mean by redeem himself. If you mean can he redeem himself to the fans, my answer would be for the most part he doesn't need to do that. Most fans will forget everything once the CD is released.

If you mean redeem himself with the press I would say that is unlikely. He will always have his reputation with them.

Do you mean the public in general? I think that is unlikely, too. He is not going to be the savior of rock again because the music climate is entirely different today.

*agreed* assuming axl releases CD and finishes the tour, i think he could go two directions from there. He could either release another cd ASAP, in which case i think he will have made a successful comeback, or he can go back to the studio for who knows how long. If this were the case, i don't think he will have "redeemed" himself, just released another cd and disappeared again. If he doesn't keep himself and new gnr in the spotlight, we'll be right back at this thread again...

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

we will know after we hear the last note of CD

Once he drops the CD he will redeem himself. But like one of you siad, I don't think has to redeem hiself at all.

[jarmo]

No he can't.

He could release the best album in the history of music and people would still complain. 

It's always been like that.



/jarmo

[yagami1gnr]

Well, does he have to?
Besides, it doesn't matter, like Jarmo said even if  he delivers one of the best albums in history, people would still complain. This reminds me the caricature of Axl with B'head made byLethyC where B'head reads the news and he tells
that all the wrong things on the world are his fault. 

[fixintodie]

If Axl wants to redeem himself, he needs to concentrate on the fans he's let down over the last few years first, before he goes recruiting a bunch of teenage MTV viewers. How about writing us once in a while dude?

And for the last time, The Darkness are a parody band. And a shit one at that. GN'R are/were the real thing. The Darkness fizzled out because they're absolutely fucking shit. A squealy voiced Freddie Mercury rip off, guitar riffs that are total Brian May ripoffs, and an attitude that pisses on everything rock stands for doesn't make a great band IMO. And I'm from the UK, so spare me 'but they're still big over there' bullshit. Yeah, so are the Cheeky Girls. Whats your point?

Release some music Axl.

[AylaRose28]

If Axl wants to redeem himself, he needs to concentrate on the fans he's let down over the last few years first, before he goes recruiting a bunch of teenage MTV viewers. How about writing us once in a while dude?

And for the last time, The Darkness are a parody band. And a shit one at that. GN'R are/were the real thing. The Darkness fizzled out because they're absolutely fucking shit. A squealy voiced Freddie Mercury rip off, guitar riffs that are total Brian May ripoffs, and an attitude that pisses on everything rock stands for doesn't make a great band IMO. And I'm from the UK, so spare me 'but they're still big over there' bullshit. Yeah, so are the Cheeky Girls. Whats your point?

Release some music Axl.

Eeks. sorry I brought the Darkness up. I thought they were cool. A nod to glam metal more than GnR type of music.
*shrugs*