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« on: June 02, 2004, 04:33:48 AM »

its because u were expecting old gnr, contraband its the best hard rock album around better than most shit we hear today. u keep conpareing everything to do with it even what thay wear! its fucking sicking to see that half of the americans care about everything slash and duff do.
contraband = velvet revolver, gr8 rock album for our days! or theres another reason, you dont
like it because your trying to help out axl (childish way) its getting like some metallica fans
thay always conpare to puppets or justice and when thay cut there hair i laughed so much at what ppl thought, get a life like!

i say if u cant except contraband well your still stuck in the 80's
so means u need to get out more  Grin

peace ppl  beer
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 04:46:46 AM »

I completely disagree with you.  I like this cd but some of the songs were not good. and im not comparing them to gnr, whats out now, snakepit, STP, Loaded or any other crap you want to say. i just listened to the cd with expectations i had after hearing Slither.  and i was a little disappointed.  im sure if axl ever comes out with a cd i wont love every song on there either. so if you cant except other people's opinions of the cd then dont read the reviews and get the hell off the board....reviews are opinions...now cry about it
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 04:53:26 AM »

I completely disagree with you.  I like this cd but some of the songs were not good. and im not comparing them to gnr, whats out now, snakepit, STP, Loaded or any other crap you want to say. i just listened to the cd with expectations i had after hearing Slither.  and i was a little disappointed.  im sure if axl ever comes out with a cd i wont love every song on there either. so if you cant except other people's opinions of the cd then dont read the reviews and get the hell off the board....reviews are opinions...now cry about it

i wazent talking about ppl who dont like some songs in genaral just the ppl who hate it because of those reasons i stated and u cant say ppl dident compar the to bands becuase its all everyone does on this board ! thx for the reply but being a dick about it wazent the way dude so try next time and post somthing worth reading with out no hate towards someone  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2004, 08:19:31 AM »

Some people just don't like Weiland as a musician.....

Whether you like it or not, he's a big part of that band and album.


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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2004, 09:08:04 AM »

Contraband is really the best rock album in long long time... some people don't like it - it's their problem... I know many people who don't like Appetite too...  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2004, 09:15:45 AM »

If you think this is the best rock album in a long time then some of you need to listen to more music.
Yes its better than a lot of the music out there but that is not saying much at all these days.
No one is saying its a terrible album, its just not what most people expected, most people expected more.
And if you think its to help out axl then you are just fooling yourself.

Because even some of teh biggest VR fans think the album is just decent.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2004, 09:41:09 AM »

Weiland is a huge part of this whole thing...I feel the rest of the band accomadated to his style way too much and thats what takes away from it.....

IN MY OPINION

everything is relative...but alot of "GNR people" are going to be dissapointed because of that

and theres nothign wrong with that
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2004, 10:37:03 AM »

Its not about the comparisons of vr to old gnr work. Its about the album actually being an average album. NAturally everyone is going to compare VRs work to gnr and stp. And naturally people are gonna compare new gnr to old gnr and vr. Theres no denying that. But after you get past that and realize that each band and its material is its own thing you judge. And to be honest its average stuff. Except for the ballads.

I was expecting only what the band told me to expect. What they said was what I expected. They said they were bringing back sleazy grimy type old school rock. Well where is it? Where are the grimy lyrics? Wheres the old school rock sound?

Believe me im not stuck in the 80's. And I wasnt expecting an 80's type sound. But I also wasnt expecting an alternative type sound. AFter all slash and duff are the people creating the sound not scott. But if you liek it thats fine. Some iwll like some wont. No biggie. WHatver you enjoy in music, its your taste.....so enjoy. music isnt about hating
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2004, 10:49:16 AM »

The Reality is that people haven't given it time yet.  It hasn't even been released yet!  I know the same shit is going to happen with CD and it's just the wrong way to approach music imo.  

Give it time, give them time, the second album will be the real teller of their strengths. Because they will know each other that much better - as one band not two bands in one.  And on the live stage, they will prove themselves and hopefully add to the buzz they are gaining about them.

It's funny how those who are really looking forward to it are waiting for the album ( i include myself). Whilst those who are generally a bit negative towards it all have gone out to seek it first.

But hey no ones going to lose sleep over who likes VR and who doesn't.  What i do know is alot of us into it, are going to enjoy this summer with an album by artists we love and respect.  
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2004, 10:53:53 AM »

If you think this is the best rock album in a long time then some of you need to listen to more music.
Yes its better than a lot of the music out there but that is not saying much at all these days.
No one is saying its a terrible album, its just not what most people expected, most people expected more.
And if you think its to help out axl then you are just fooling yourself.

Because even some of teh biggest VR fans think the album is just decent.


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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2004, 11:08:06 AM »

Its not about the comparisons of vr to old gnr work. Its about the album actually being an average album. NAturally everyone is going to compare VRs work to gnr and stp. And naturally people are gonna compare new gnr to old gnr and vr. Theres no denying that. But after you get past that and realize that each band and its material is its own thing you judge. And to be honest its average stuff. Except for the ballads.

I was expecting only what the band told me to expect. What they said was what I expected. They said they were bringing back sleazy grimy type old school rock. Well where is it? Where are the grimy lyrics? Wheres the old school rock sound?

Believe me im not stuck in the 80's. And I wasnt expecting an 80's type sound. But I also wasnt expecting an alternative type sound. AFter all slash and duff are the people creating the sound not scott. But if you liek it thats fine. Some iwll like some wont. No biggie. WHatver you enjoy in music, its your taste.....so enjoy. music isnt about hating

I agree with a lot you're saying that. But I really don't think people compare it too much. I don't. I listen to it and judge what I hear. I think people are just generally a bit disappointed. The album has too many weak songs and very few that really stands out! (What about none?) And I agree with Jarmo about Scott. I'm sitting here listening to this album and I hear Scott singing that he falls when he falls. Well, that's fine! But it doesn't make a good song! His lyrics are just really, really bad. And they're not bad in a cool way either... With Brad Cox and Rod Jackson it was real bad too but at least they were bad enough to give me a laugh. This is just stupid. Weiland should be in 2nd div of music. Rod and Brad are just amateurs. I expected more from him.

I have a feeling they've just done mistake after mistake. They could've gotten Bach. I know lots of people were totally negative about them playing with him - including myself - and I was somewhat postive about Scott. Duff said they didn't wanna sound like Skid Row. I can see that, but is it any better sounding like STP? I do believe they could've made their own style. If they had added a bit of everything, they could've made something catchy and cool.

And Scott rejected Izzy's material. Come on! Izzy had a better song than Spectacle there! They could've done it! And even the song Pleasin' would've strenghtened the album!

It's just talk and talk about how great they are and then in the end they arn't. And when I'm starting to miss Rod Jackson and Brad Cox something is totally wrong...
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2004, 11:10:22 AM »

If you think this is the best rock album in a long time then some of you need to listen to more music.
Yes its better than a lot of the music out there but that is not saying much at all these days.
No one is saying its a terrible album, its just not what most people expected, most people expected more.
And if you think its to help out axl then you are just fooling yourself.

Because even some of teh biggest VR fans think the album is just decent.


I really cannot think of one album that's come out in 2004 worth a serious mention can you?  VR has the chance to show all the bands around today how it's done. Surely that is a good thing?
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2004, 06:51:45 PM »

I've listened to it 2 or 3 times now.  It's OK.  Not compared to "old" Gnr, but compared to some current music.  Audioslave's debut was a better album.  Jane's Addiction's most recent album is a better album.  There have been plenty of bands, over the past couple of years, that have released better.  Is it awful? Fuck no.  It's a good Rock and Roll album...but it's not great....and I like Weiland and his STP stuff.  It just not nearly as good as I would have expected it to be, given the people involved.  I expected, unfairly perhaps, a masterpiece.  Maybe it's my expectations that are coloring my opinion.  That's entirely possible.  Still.....
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2004, 06:55:17 PM »

If you think this is the best rock album in a long time then some of you need to listen to more music.
Yes its better than a lot of the music out there but that is not saying much at all these days.
No one is saying its a terrible album, its just not what most people expected, most people expected more.
And if you think its to help out axl then you are just fooling yourself.

Because even some of teh biggest VR fans think the album is just decent.


I really cannot think of one album that's come out in 2004 worth a serious mention can you?  VR has the chance to show all the bands around today how it's done. Surely that is a good thing?

I can think of a couple.  But to be honest, the "big guns" in the industry are typically released during the summer, and late fall/holiday season.  Might it be the best Rock album so far in '04? Maybe.  Is it the best rock album released in the past year (as in, since June 8 of '03)? No.  By the end of '04, will it be the best album of '04? Probably not.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2004, 10:28:29 PM »

Well I am not going to launch into a big tirade about it but I certainly was expecting more. It has a very weak anaemic sound, no life or colour, two components I believe good music should have. Weiland is unimpressive to say the least but as expected, the guitar work is superb especially on Slither.
On listening to this I am reminded of something Axl said, (paraphrasing here), you have to attain a balance between remaining true to what you are and still being popular and bankable. The original GNR were masters of this and struck the balance perfectly. VR I feel are trying to be too acceptable and non confrontational, as someone already said it just sounds like an Alt Rock album only with Slash's phenomenal guitar work.
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2004, 02:34:50 AM »

You hear in articles Scott saying he is 100% commited to VR and that this will probalby be the last band he's in before he "retires" Well I hope this isnt the last band for Slash.  I dont want to see him end in VR
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2004, 06:37:12 AM »

with guys like Slash, Duff, Matt you somehow always compare their new stuff to the old it is stupid but you just can?t help it. I?m not sure if this goes for every body but for me this is the case. But i like contrabandits good stuff    
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